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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,593 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Like any other cult they know that too in anyway publicly question anything by the leaders is the catalyst that will bring the whole house of cards tumbling down around their ears.

    Performances like Bondi`s is not going to add to their numbers. More likely the opposite when attempting to justified it would make their own heads explode never mind it converting someone to their cult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭valoren


    The jump the shark moment for anyone with a functioning brain regarding Rogan was him having Terrence Howard on talking about bisexual elements and how 1 x 0 = 1. That he was tolerated and allowed to talk complete scutter and not get challenged on it was indicative of how the Rogan show is post truth nonsense dressed up as free speech i.e. by all means allow people to talk but at least have the integrity to either challenge it or have adjoining guests who can rebut the other guest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Hey, Rogan apparently largely believes in science...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,593 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Hopefully more of both from both the Dems and Republicans with the midterms coming up, but the Dems will really need to be very focused on how any why they are going after Trump. Otherwise he and Republicans will just attempt to flood the zone with nonsense and distraction.

    With the Dems results in those elections and Trump`s ratings, their are quite a few Republicans up for re-election in the midterms that will be questioning how much of a liability Trump will be to them managing too get re-elected. Or first timers questioning the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,040 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The guy is voluntary staying in detention in awful conditions rather than go back to ireland. I doubt its because of these charges, would they even do anything at this stage? His life is in the US now, he probably didn't even think about the warrant before went public its so long ago.

    But if the US is so bad and an awful place to live, akin to nazi Germany etc as people on here seem to think, you'd think he'd be on the first plane out of there right? Instead he is fighting tooth and nail to stay. Hint, its because the US isnt actually a dystopian hellscape.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Benihunter


    It could be to do with the charges, I had just presumed it was because he was living illegally over there and he knew he wouldn't get back in if he left. Either way I don't wish the man any harm and I'd say he'll be fine whether he stays or arrives back home.

    I'm just laughing at RTE running this ridiculous story, painting it as a sob story and having the whole thing blow up in their faces. They deserve it for going near this nonsense in the first place, Culleton was clearly in the wrong but they tried hard to paint him as a victim.

    Regarding America being a kip, I have no opinion really, I've never been, but I'm sure it's fine. I would like to go see it some day but I've heard it's mad expensive which is the biggest turn off for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,333 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Hegseths attempt to penalize Senator Kelly by reducing his service rank and pension for - along with several other members of congress - reminding serving DF members of their legal obligations was thrown out of court by Richard L. Leon, a Bush-appointed federal judge for the District of Columbia.

    'Rather than trying to shrink the First Amendment liberties of retired service members, Secretary Hegseth and his fellow Defendants might reflect and be grateful for the wisdom and expertise that retired service members have brought to public discussions and debate on military matters in our Nation over the past 250 years,' Judge Leon wrote in a 29-page ruling. 'If so, they will more fully appreciate why the Founding Fathers made free speech the first Amendment in the Bill of Rights!'

    Judge Leon stated Hegseth's decision to punish Kelly through military channels appears to be a tactic to avoid oversight by the legal system. 'This Court has all it needs to conclude that Defendants have trampled on Senator Kelly’s First Amendment freedoms and threatened the constitutional liberties of millions of military retirees,' Judge Leon added. He goes on in his ruling to quote famous musician Bob Dylan who said, '"You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."

    Trump reacted to the Kelly video by accusing Kelly and his fellow Democrats of 'SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!' so I can imagine the effect the ruling will have on him. As for Hegseth and the judge, they're lucky that Trump doesn't have Darth Vader's ability to leave people gasping for air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,333 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Was Jim Jordans comment yesterday about people not having the right to protest inside Congress aimed at the chief law officer of the Trump Admin?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    So now they're revoking a ruling around the danger of greenhouse gases.

    US President Donald Trump has reversed a key Obama-era scientific ruling that underpins all federal actions on curbing planet-warming gases.

    The so-called 2009 "endangerment finding" concluded that a range of greenhouse gases were a threat to public health. It's become the legal bedrock of federal efforts to rein in emissions, especially in vehicles.

    The White House called the reversal the "largest deregulation in American history", saying it would make cars cheaper, bringing down costs for automakers by $2,400 per vehicle.

    Environmental groups say the move is by far the most significant rollback on climate change yet attempted and are set to challenge it in the courts.

    Hey, sure what harm can pumping extra green gases do? Sure Trump is, many are saying, the Greatest Scientist of All Time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    The trouble is a significant number of people wouldn't think an outburst like this would be out of character with Trump, it's almost believable, just missing a Thank you for your attention in this splatter, to wrap it up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,593 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Still no sign of that video from Hegseth that Trump promised of a second strike taken to kill two men clinging to a wrecked boat.

    I believe there is no need for any doubt now that it was anything other than a war crime which has no statute of limitations, so if I was Drunken Pete, or anyone else that had any hand or part in it, I would not be including any trips outside of the U.S. in my future plans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    It's not going to be much good charging them with murder after he dies,,I really hope Trump gets more places/etc named after him,the race to tear the name down will be entertaining,, hopefully he lives to see it,, vegetable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Jaysus calm yourself. Whatever else about the country they are basically the reigning champions at just about everything globally, hardly they rabble of castoffs you are describing them as.

    I mean criticism is well warranted but it doesn't negate decades of total global domination economically, scientifically, socially, militarily etc etc.

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  • Moderators Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭Azza


    America is on the path of neo-fascism. Is it full on Nazi Germany right now with concentration camps and the like? No but neither was Nazi Germany like that on day one of Hitler being elected or even within a year. Now I don't think for a second Trump is as bad as Hitler or that we will end up with a massive world war and a holocaust but I don't know how far down the path he will take us and if that leads to his potential successors moving further down that path, I've no idea how far it will go, maybe it will end Trump but what I do know right now is the direction of travel is not good.

    The fact that Mr Culleton wants to stay in America indicates that America still has positives and that the life he built up before this situation in the US was a good life and he wants to get back to it, America is a large country and half the population don't agree with what Trump is doing and what Trump is doing can't just erase what's good about America overnight. That doesn't mean we should ignore the warning signs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,593 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Trump dying would not mean anyone involved could not be charged with committing a war crime, and there is no statute of limitation for a war crime.

    If someone gets the franchise for tearing down signs they would make an absolute fortune auctioning out the jobs and then selling the signs to MAGA fruit cakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭kyote00


    they are doing an astonishing job of pissing away those decades of dominance…. Today’s performance on climate was utterly unhinged….it had the MAGA formula of corruption, religion, racism . Hard to watch this socio-economic self harm play out…


    their approach to the mid terms might be the ‘tipping point’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump has revoked a finding that greenhouse gassed harm human health.

    Also Trumps £10bn lawsuit against the BBC is going ahead in February 2027. It should have been thrown out.

    Under Sullivan Vs NY Times, a public figure in a US court can only prove defamation if the story was known too be false by the producer, or if they acted with reckless disregard for whether it was or not.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Patrick2010




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Europe working on alternative to Visa/Mastercard to reduce reliance on an increasingly erratic US. Concerns US could use Europe's dependence on Visa and Mastercard as pressure.

    Follows agreement between Bizum (Spanish), Bancomat (Italian), Sibs-MB-Way (Portugal) and Vibbs (Norway,) and the EPI (European Payments Initiative). It will cover 13 countries of western Europe except Ireland and Iceland. Norway and Finland will be covered as will Switzerland.

    There's a proposal to use the EU flag on this systems cards. The planned initiative uses existing national payment apps. That could ease the transition.

    The European Payments Alliance is starting the switch to instant cross border payments between mobile transfer schemes enabling users in Italy, Portugal, Spain and and Andorra to send and receive money instantly to mobile phone numbers.

    The proposed timeline in the Memorandum of Understanding is:

    - First half of 2026. To establish a Central body to build foundations.

    - Second half of 2026. To begin rolling out cross border payments.

    - 2027. Expand to e-commerce and point of sale transactions.

    Should Ireland sign up? I support this. We are especially susceptible to US pressure.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I don't care if America is appealing for him or isn't the hellscape some portray, our government should be demanding he returns home to face the justice he ran from. The US should remove the cash offer to voluntarily leave as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Makes a mockery of the EU threats to fine us for not hitting targets especially when a huge amount of our output is from data centres mainly used by people out of Ireland so if they weren't here they'd be somewhere else.

    You'll now have a situation where the likes of China, US, Russia, South America, India, Africa and more don't give a flying ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    In other words, an old man who is going to die soon doesn’t give a damn about the consequences of his policies.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,705 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    For a guy who loves to wear a flag on his belt/lapel/handkerchief, Hegseth's behaviour is very unAmerican.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭kyote00


    in the interest of staying factual….

    The EU generates roughly 47% of its electricity from renewables, compared with about 30–35% in China and 22–24% in the United States, meaning Europe leads in renewable share while China leads in total scale.
    China is moving at pace towards renewables- US doing the opposite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    China is literally doing the exact opposite of the US. They've got huge renewable energy growth. So give it ten years or so and their emissions are gonna be drastically lower. This is more another example of the US falling behind on technologies that will shape the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,529 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    eh? It says a lot about Ireland. If there'd been job and housing opportunities here, why leave?

    There weren't. When there's 10 in the family and the oldest son always get the farm, the others get scraps. So, off they go. Ireland's biggest export has always been it's children. Blame the RCC, they're central to Irish history and have been the defacto government for many years, perhaps not so much in the last generation or so.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    There is no excuse for their mindset and as far as I'm concerned anyone who supports him should be shot.

    How you or anyone else think anything he does can be defended is laughable. The fact that he was allowed to take office says everything you need to know about the US and its general populace (really just confirmed everything most people knew).

    Mod Edit: Warned for breach of forum charter

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭aero2k


    I agree about the awfulness of Trump. Sometimes, however, if you want to fight against something, you have to try to understand it and explain it, though of course not excuse it. It helps to get as many perspectives as possible, if they're well laid out. There's also the stopped clock effect, where Trump's administration might do something right by accident.

    I'm on record saying Trump is so unfit for office due to his contempt for the institution of the Presidency, the constitution, political opponents, and basically anyone who refuses to lick his nappy- clad arse, that nothing he does in office, even if I actually agree with it, could cancel out that negative.

    He is the president though, and that makes discussion of pros and cons of policy and implementation valid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yeah China has gone big on solar and part of that is for national security. Their greenhouse emissions have been disgracefully high however making up about 35% of the planet's emissions.

    But their solar push is a positive and I do wonder why more countries don't push it more. Probably regulations slowing it down.



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