General British politics discussion thread

Classic Non-Apology apology there by Ratcliffe.

In an actual apology you say you're sorry for your actions, not for other people's reactions.

It's basically the performance of an apology without the sentiment behind one. A box-ticking exercise. Entirely worthless.

What annoys me is that nobody is ever called out on this nonsense.

To us in Ireland it's known as the Bertie Ahern apology.

I note his non-apology today didn't withdraw the inaccurate population figures he gave. I was in having coffee somewhere today and they had Sky News on an unending loop about it, replaying the interview including the false '12 million extra' bit.

I have little doubt this was instigated by Farage in relation to the Gorton and Denton byelection. Let's hope it explodes in all their faces. I know footballers are a notoriously self-centred bunch but you'd have to think even some of them would have to seriously affronted by this.

Football fans in the UK tend 'not' to be racist. The likes of Man Utd and Liverpool have strong working class roots and to be left leaning politically - you'd be unlikely to find a big load of Farage / Reform supporters at your average game complaining about there being too many immigrants and ethnic minorities in the country.

The Americans are far worse. Look at the difficulty they have in dealing with just two other countries in CUSMA. There’s now a lot of talk stateside about separate deals with Canada and Mexico. Imagine if they were in the EU! The notion of shared global responsibility for climate change, let alone that those nations who have put most of the warming gases up there having the most responsibility for sorting out matters, simply wrecks their brains. Fundamentally, the US just can’t play well with the other kids.

What are the zionist authoritarian cheerleaders going to call for now?

to achieve… what exactly?

to protect zionism

I don't think it achieved that even. Every vicar and retiree and teenager arrested for wearing a tshirt, or a tshirt with Morph on it, caused more ridicule.

Unforeseen consequences.

They were hoping to frighten people into not protesting at all by effectively saying that they would be considered "terrorists". It just didn't work out as they had hoped.

In the end Starmer's Labour just ended up looking terrible as a result. Arresting OAP's for holding up a sign was never going to go down well with the vast majority of people.

Enforcement of the decision today has been stayed pending appeal, so they will have a defined time to **** or get off the pot on that.

Assuming the appeal fails and the court upholds the decision that the proscription of PA was unlawful. It means the UK govt unlawfully arrested and besmirched thousands of people… all at the behest of the zionist lobby.