President Connolly

The debate had nothing to do with SF's point of view or Connolly's.
You said yourself that Campbell said

-the proposition was ‘built on a false premise’ which said ‘there’s no Northern Ireland’

The proposition said NO such thing.

All you have done here is show that the type of belligerent Unionist Campbell is, will invent things in order to get attention. He did the same in Derry.

This is just a deflection from the matter at hand.

The President neither denied the existence of Londonderry or the existence of NI, no matter how much you and Campbell and others wish it to be true.

None of that addresses the point I made.

Campbell essentially complained that people in the South aren't respectful enough to use Londonderry on occasion instead of Derry. You just proved it.

So, after 22 pages back and forth we get back to the real issue.

Pres Connollys first official visit to another country is still creating waves here, and was no surprise to those who could see the form.

Thats about it in a nutshell, it did happen.

Or it was 22 pages of the same few posters nitpicking the smallest details looking for something to find a fault with anything she says or does. Even people who didn't vote for her have come in here and said she didn't do anything wrong.

Good question. But given its now given name is called Londonderry that is its legal name. And you can say its it name for over 400 years. You could argue it is the people who say Derry are being pedantic.

I immediately thought of older people who still say “Amiens Street Station” instead of Connolly - renamed 1966. And then thought of Dublin’s O’Connell Street renamed from Sackville Street in 1924. Who says Sackville street these days? Some might not even know the original Sackville name at all.

iIt has worked the “other way” as well

Queen’s County (Laois) was originally named in honor of Queen Mary - King’s County (Offaly) was originally named in honor of King Philip - that was back in 1566.

Long before they were changed to Laois /Offaly. Their “proper” names of the two counties created by the British Authorities were Queens County -Kings County. Their names were only changed in 1922.

The reality is ALL counties in island of Ireland are a British creation. As hard as that for GAA people or Republicans to stomach. They got to name AND create the administrative areas.

In answer to your question from Campbell’s viewpoint Derry doesn’t exist in the same way for republicans . NI doesn’t exist - 6 countries/ occupied 6 etc

So it doesn’t “compute” for Campbell he doesn’t see it as fairness but a reflection of reality. Londonderry is its name as far as he is concerned anything else is a rewriting of “history”. Which he has a point on. In my view.

Maybe they should revert to County Colraine? As I think the l Derry/Derry stuff is childish. Saying the two l Derry/derry in speech is just pandering to the pedantic symbolism that permeates NI. They even have to avoid any Derry in their radio station name - radio foyle. It is just silly.

Much as how my father goes to Amiens street station still. Some people are slow to change or refuse to change.

I think Connolly would nearly choke if she said Londonderry. Her mind thinking Doire (Oak Wood) - Dair Irish for Oak.

The point is, is it acceptable for an elected rep to treat a head of state on an official visit in that way.

Of course we know there are those who'd be foaming at the mouth if it had been done to one of their untouchables by one of their unmentionables.

'You' don't think.

The name 'Derry' would never come from this homophobic racist bigot's lips in political discussions. He hadn't a leg to stand on on that issue.

Nor had he on the Bloody Sunday exceptionalism given he was to the fore trying to block the delivery of justice to the victims.

Connolly had no idea where the approach was going to go, she has every right to see it as a belligerent or threatening approach.

If you are trying to say that reminding somebody who 'owns' the country you are in is benign and polite I think you are the deluded one.

So when some (and it os only some) Unionists only use Londonderry they are intentionally insulting those who use Derry.

Who knew.
She never mentioned hundreds of other killings os Catholics and Nationalists because she wasn’t at an event about them.

A timely reminder that Gregory Campbell and his fellow DUP bigots all walked out of Derry City Council when the DEMOCRATIC vote to change it's name from Londonderry City Council to Derry City Council was passed.

A proven racist hypocritical bigot. Unbelievable that some on here are falling over themselves to defend him.

It was admirable the way in which our President put him back in his box. I (nearly) felt sorry for him.

We have only the word of an antagonistic racist homophobic bigot who set out to humiliate, that she did. Paisley pulled stunts like this all the time.

The usual lot trying to backtrack and deflect.

Lookit, the form was evident, it was bound to happen, it did happen, it was predictable, stop flogging a dead horse lads.

Are we going to talk about the dead horse you're flogging, you know in the sense that dead horses were flogged on both sides and you haven't mentioned your sides?