President Connolly

The Siege Museum is a treasure house of artefacts from past to present. Based over three floors, the museum features an array of artefacts from the siege to modern day Apprentice Boys memorabilia. The museum offers an educational and interactive visitor experience telling the story of the great Siege of Londonderry and 400 years of cultural identity and heritage

which of course includes histories of the Orange Order which meets there.

*bolding mine

And we pivot to something else rather than face up to the misconceptions you wish to spread.
Anyone is entitled to object to an official visit and many people do to differing visitors.

The question/issue here is approaching a head of state on an official visit to scold them an to warn them about who’s country she is in is proper behaviour.

Of course it isn’t and if it happened to a cherished (by you) head of state we all know what your spiel would be.

I think we were discussing said MP

Given his party members have a history of threatening ministers from this state his 'polite' interjection was a passive aggressive one.
Aggression this MP is noted for as shown.

😁😁 sure. Gregory and his party’s record on anything Irish says different.

That’s why The President is getting the kudos she is. She didn’t rise to the bait of a known antagonist from a party renowned for it’s aggressive belligerence towards anything Irish.

Why else would you mark somebody’s card about ‘whose’ country they are in? It’s a warning to behave in a certain way. A threat in other words The DUP have a track record in this behaviour.

You keep characterising what he said as polite and small talk. It wasn't. And that is why Campbell is at the centre of a controversy AGAIN because of his belligerence.

And anyone is entitled to be against a visit. What you are not entitled to do is confront a head of state in this way.

One can only imagine the vitriol from certain quarters had the British or US head of state had been confronted by an elected representative in this way.

That appears to be the majority view, including those she met from other communities in the various places she visited.

There is also a permanent nationalist minority.

The future of Northern Ireland is held in the hands of those in the middle - neither nationalist nor unionist.

The old trope of the inevitability of a nationalist majority has died, the future is an interesting place.

The man was having a polite discussion, not starting a war.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/belligerence

The tendency on here seems to be to exaggerate what happens in order to make some facile debating point.

From your perspective and background I can see why you think that, It would more akin to those Turkish soccer supporters holding up a “wrlcome to hell” sign. But to me he was just setting out here is here. Your country is there - remember that.

A lot of non Ulster people say they would like a UI. It is out of politeness and the expected thing to say. As a Dub going up north I immediately sense the “Up there and down here” never mind the exorbitant sausage and chips I once paid for from a burger van in Armagh- Gaelic Grounds

“8 “ said she. “Euro” says I ? She said Sterling. I only had Euros. She quickly said 10 euros! Chips and sausage was cold too.

The symbolism is heavy in NI / look at me from both sides. That is very noticeable for this Dub. There is a them and us in NI still. And an unspoken them and us between the ROI and “the republican nordies”. Not the same mindsets. That is the truth.

So to deny that there are two jurisdictions is just head in the sand stuff altogether to me. Partition has been done get over it is my attitude. All the terminology is daft to me too - six counties etc. it is complete denial from my perspective. Campbell in his manner was addressing that denial.

You also didn’t add the context that Campbell said to Connolly that he was going to “your country” Dublin.
For this talk - where he spoke.

https://universityobserver.ie/dup-mp-gregory-campbell-speaks-at-lh-debate-after-catherine-connolly-comments/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

To me Campbell although at times looking to rile there is sometimes an element of truth in what he says. He deals in absolutes. The reality of a situation. He sees the same pretence with the Irish language that Nationalists in NI or those in ROI deep down know the truth of but would never say.

In the later talk - he opened with.

-the proposition was ‘built on a false premise’ which said ‘there’s no Northern Ireland’ and underlined that Northern Ireland’s existence was protected by the principle of consent. ”

Which lifts the veil on the republican delusion that NI does not exist. It is the same ideological time Connolly has. She would NEVER say “Londinderry”. But that is the name it has been given. So just pretend it is still Derry?

This to me is the nub of it -

The reality v the deluded aspirational.

But you know well what Campbell means though. You probably NEVER said NI in your life. Pretend it doesn’t exist.

Connolly pretends LondonDerry doesn’t exist. Doubt she said LondonDerry in her life.

All the other Irish parties in DE say NI - It is only SF that doesn’t it is that cognitive dissonance that Campbell is rightly getting to the nub of.

And which is why he pulled Connolly up on Derry usage.. No doubt she just said Derry as she normally would. Without thinking.

But as I said Connolly bluffed / dodged it well, in the aftermath. The 14 children comment was great.

On the NI thing, the President referred to the province repeatedly as 'Northern Ireland' in her speeches there - something that got totally lost in the Derry vs Londonderry kerfuffle.