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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭pad406


    So, options are

    a) won't tell the truth without a pardon

    b) Orange Buffoon gives her a pre-emptive pardon and there won't be a word of truth about Trump

    Not great options are they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It's not so much who cares but the fact it can easily have been a mistake. Anyone who sends clipped videos would know this is quite common.

    Anyone? This is the president of the USA, it is not your aunt who sends funny memes in the group chat.

    Again, you are excusing clear racism. It is disgusting.

    I don't believe this incident was him being racist so I'm not defending him. I do believe he is actually racist though and I think you and many others are missing the real evidence here why.

    You are very clearly defending him, that is why you brought Biden into it. You are the one actively ignoring evidence in plain sight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Trump does not like being pushed about by a woman, perhaps he will move her to the MCC in NY and go for the Epstein play, shut the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Meanwhile over 137m people watched it haha.

    He must be fuming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Funny, I thought Rubio and Cruz could understand it.

    It was a nice halftime show, clevelry done. Was good to see Ricky Martin again. No halftime show will ever be as good as the one Prince did in the rain.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭midlander12


    It's actually a rubbish figure, and that's from a GOP pollster. He's on 36-37% in other polls. Even Biden, and Trump himself in his first term, usually scraped around 40% or so. Generally Presidents get huge approval ratings from their side of the fence and virtually zero from the other side. This implies he's down to 80% or less among Republicans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Not really, TBH. They knew what they were voting for, and they got it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,533 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Sounds like the ground is being prepared for her to get clemency (a pardon probably) from Trump in return for making him look good in her statements where she'll speak "fully" and "honestly".

    🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I'm saying this particular action is not clear cut racism. Not everything a racist person does is racist and that goes for many US presidents including the fan favourite Biden.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This is one of the most overtly racist things he's ever done. Your "but Biden" defence isn't going to work.

    I'll take it that the evidence you mentioned earlier doesn't exist since you've not provided it yet.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    A fair and balance view aka both sides doesn't necessarily have to say trump overall isn't a racist.

    The real evidence here is why did trump's algorithm autoplay into a very racist video. The algorithm knows more about you then anyone else.

    Now I know people will argue for balance and say dark humour exists which could show racist stuff but that video doesn't strike me as comedy but more political.

    Why is nobody jumping on the algorithm angle? That's the real story here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Because it wasn't an autoplay, as was explained above?

    It was part of the video. Give over already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    I'm saying this particular action is not clear cut racism.

    Yes, it is, FFS. Putting the Obamas faces onto the bodies of apes is very clearly racist. It isn't subtle, or an inside joke.

    And there you go again with Biden. You just can't help yourself here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    come on. Clearly excusing his blatant deliberate and shameless racism. And trying to hide it by saying you believe he’s racist, just like other U.S. presidents were.

    I can’t recall any recent President so shamelessly racist as Trump.

    You’re in support of him as the best person to lead the free world. Why won’t you just admit that? Many many millions have admitted it.

    Personally, and this is not a dig at you, but I think those espousing Trump as the right man are absolutely all that is wrong and bad and low as regards decency in society!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,375 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm open to an argument that Trump isn't a racist but you're just repeating the same mantra over and over again.

    The real story here is that Trump is a racist. It's really that simple. Nobody is jumping on the algorithm angle because that's not the story.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Who's explained? Can you quote. If not I'll have a read back when I'm free tonight. Looked clearly an autoplay to me but wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I know this thread is active so I don't expect you to read all my messages but I've said a few times he's racist. I just don't believe this example is a clear cut case. I'm looking forward to reading the autoplay angle later.

    @walshb I like a few of his policies Vs the modern Day democrats but not enough that I'd have voted for him over the blues. And that's saying something because the 2024 version of Biden was pathetic and Harris is useless. Maybe Gavin Newsome Will make the Dems great again. It can't get worse then the last attempt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You're not offering a balanced view though. Sharing a video where Obama and his wife are portrayed is pushing a racist trope... There's absolutely no justification or defence of it and given his history of racist attacks on Obama, that further reinforces how racist it is. It had nothing to do with auto playing btw, it was a part of the video. Care to provide any source that claims it wasn't a part of the video?

    Btw plenty of Trump supporters have stated it's racist. The only reason it was removed was because his supporters criticised him...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭walshb




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭amacca


    I'd say if you were to do a proper accounting to date one might be able to say its all other peoples money....and the sources of a lot of it would be highly suss or defrauding people of what they are owed through incompetence and deliberate twattery

    I'd be afraid when he's gone there's a whole other issue of all the more insidious acolytes seeking to retain power and indulging in even more cretinous excesses if they get away with it and the damage division already increased

    The water has been tested....they are going to keep attempting to wear opposition down inch by inch.....

    Let's hope it's a cult of personality and the whole lot of them become personae non gratae and some sort of a reset to relative sanity doesn't take decades or longer

    In a way this coming to a head where there's a conflict/even more serious incident that riles up enough people and the whole lot of them are run out of office rather than a slow descent into chaotic incompetence and democratic backsliding might be very preferable at this stage....what's happening now becomes a really slippery slope quite quickly imo...

    Imagine wanting the likes of Miller, Noem, Bondi, Hegseth, Vance as anything other than objects of ridicule ...... I mean based on what we've seen so far imagine these cretins with any more power or influence after Trump departs …I hope none of them are organised or have enough of a support network and momentum behind them to be anything other than an irrelevant busted flush when Trump finally exits stage left

    Christ I hope they are not able to get to the point where science grants longer lifespans or any form of immortality....if there's such a thing as uploading a digital consciousness there needs to be strict quarantine protocols.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭bog master


    Unify the country yeah!

    White House to host the nation’s governors, but only Republicans are invited

    The fact that the president decided to exclude Democrats is emblematic of a larger problem: Trump sees himself as president of only some of the country.

    https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-to-host-the-nations-governors-but-only-republicans-are-invited



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Who was it a couple of pages back that was trying to tell us ice were just as bad under Biden and Obama?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,940 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The ancient order of Hibernians in the US put out a very forceful statement against trump and the Obama video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Someone needs to let them know it was an auto play and it was the algorithm’s fault 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,547 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Harris is useless"

    Harris was eminently qualified and a far more distinguished, educated, accomplished and respectable politician than Trump. She was parachuted in with less than 6 or so months to go.

    If you want to define useless, Trump is utterly that - a racist, fascist, incompetent, loutish, corrupt fraud.

    And in a two horse race, which the presidential race in the US is, she was the only sane choice.

    If she was president now, the US, their economy and frankly the world would be in a much better place. To think otherwise is utterly, utterly ridiculous.

    So no... She wasn't and isn't useless, by any metric.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭threeball


    His lawsuit will be absolutely massive. They havent a leg to stand on.

    On the other hand, why would you want to stay in such a shìthole. I'd be out the gap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    He said he's been there twenty years, so would have gone there when things were roaring here so his decision to stay on illegally wasn't economically motivated like the immigrants of the Morrison and Donnelly visa era.

    His visa normalisation seemingly is only a recent thing in lieu of getting married to a US citizen, but that application most likely triggered ICE who really don't care who they nab as long as there's kick backs from the detention operators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭lostboy75


    Whatkind of nonsense is this, claiming it's auto play, it's clearly not to begin with, How in the heck would someone post a clip with a little bit of auto play off the next video. Do you expect us to believe he played the video of what he wanted to post, recorded it on his phone or something to post it, but before he could hit stop record it automatically went into the next video and he posted it anyway. The person who is a so called buisness genius, playing 4d chess with the world and getting them to do what ever he wants (by claiming the outcome of his temper tantrum was actually what he really wanted). Trump is an idiot, and currently a depressingly powerful idiot, but I'll give him a shread of intelligence by saying even he isn't as dumb as you seem to be claiming.

    The video is racist, simple as that, and 'if' it was an error, apologise for it being posted, sack someone or whatever is required, but that would prove he doesn't post half the crap he posts per hour (and he doesn't have the ability to actually say sorry). stop doubling down because that confirms one thing only, He's a racist.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭spakman


    I'd have limited sympathy in that he's living there 20 years and only decided to apply for a green card last year.

    But the conditions they're being kept in sound deplorable.



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