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Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 25/26 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Yeah midfield feels very calm with Jones. He does all the simple things right, calms things down. He is developing into a fine player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    Jones is a two good games followed by one bad game kind of player. He never really seems to be able to push on. Good squad player but I don't think he's the answer. Grafted given Macs form this season though he probably does deserve more game time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,820 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Yeah he is tbf.

    He still has a fair number of goal contributions for us. Im just less sure than others that removing Gakpo will mean he starts properly contributing for the purpose he was bought.

    You're Nunez point doesn't make much sense, he was ultimately sold at a massive loss to the only realistic buyer in Saudi. I think that argument is over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,427 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    In one of his press conferences recently, Slot said 2 contrasting things.

    We was bemoaning about not having player availability and not being able to pick the same 11 for multiple games in a row.

    And at the same time, he was complaining that he cannot rotate as he does not have a big enough squad. - “Unlike Qarabağ, I can’t rotate 11 players before a match. Having a small squad doesn’t scare me, but it does create certain difficulties. Almost all the time, we have to rely on the same players.”

    So he is complaining that he has to use the same 11 every game, but at the same time saying that he wants to use the same 11 every game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,510 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    The point I'm making is you constantly overly negative and critical of Nunez and now you are doing the same with Kerkez.

    You're meant to support the club and players. He's barely here a wet week, is 21 years old and coming into a team which is underperforming. Players take time to settle, don't write someone off so soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,190 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    It's constant contradictions from him at the moment, he's spent the better part of the last few months complaining about having to face low-blocks and not being able to play our game against them….well City were as open as anyone yesterday and we still had to rely on a moment of individual brilliance to get our goal, barely created a chance outside of it.

    We certainly didn't look like a team who finally get to play the way they want after weeks and weeks of low-blocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,190 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Also once again requesting that if Rio Ngumoha is not going to play then can we please send him back to the U21s? He's played 349 minutes of senior football this season, it amounts to less than one hour of football per month, this is not good for his development.

    Because he's been on the bench almost every game he's only gotten to play 45 minutes of U21 football.

    By this stage of last season he had played 72 minutes for the first team and 1,140 minutes for the youth squads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,820 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I think you need to be clear about expressing doubts on boards.ie and support in the stands during the game.

    If for example, you hold serious doubts about, say Kerkez, but refuse to be critical of him on boards.ie because you support Liverpool then fair enough.

    You've fairly hammered Gakpo though and I'm on record praising Kerkez where appropriate (Arsenal away, Newcastle assist).

    We're 6 months into his tenure and he is young but my personal opinion (so far) is that we have bought a player based on one season's worth of attacking output at Bournmouth and he is failing to replicate that whilst also finding him to be defensively suspect and somewhat frenzied on the ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    What I noticed from Arsenal is that they haven't been using the kids that much in the PL this season.

    Lewis Skelly has only got 312 minutes. Last season he got 1371 minutes so unless he plays all the remaining games he won't get that.

    Nwaneri got 889 minutes last season in the PL across 26 games and this season got 165 minutes across 6 seasons before going on loan in Jan.

    They put Dowman on against Leeds when they were a few goals up and they brought him on against us at Anfield but he hasn't played since. A total of 27 minutes in 2 games.

    They went out and bought Kepa (GK), Mosquera (CB), Hincapie (CB), Zubemendi (DM), Norgaard (DM), Eze (AM), Madueke (RW) and Gyokeres (S). That's eight starting players for most PL teams.

    They've added to Raya, White (CB), Saliba (CB), Gabriel (CB), Calafiori (CB), Timber (CB), Lewis Skelly (LB), Rice (MF), Odegaard (MF), Merino (MF), Trossard (LW), Martenelli (LW), Saka (RW), Havertz (CF) and Jesus (CF).

    They have a squad of 22 first team senior players with a few kids to make 25. They are fully covered for an injury in any position or drop off in form.

    The have 7 CB's with Saliba and Grabriel being the main stay in the two central positions and the other CBs being used as RB and LB.

    This gives them dominance in their own box and in the oppositions box for set pieces.

    Arsenal added more players to their squad from last season than we did but everyone talks about ours. It's because of the imbalance compared to Arsenal's spread of defence, midfield and attack.

    Arteta is also prepared to use the full 22 senior players at his disposal where as Slot wants a small 14 core players and will only use players outside of that if he has no other choice.

    Pep had that approach in the past with core players but with the amount of additions they have made in the last few transfer windows he's going the same way as Arteta. City's bench was so much stronger than ours yesterday.

    If Slot cannot work with a larger squad then I can't see us competing with the physical demands of the current PL style of football.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭brevity


    If slot had suitable replacements he would use them I believe.

    It feels like there is a lot of fitness management going on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Re the incident at the end of the game yesterday. The ref/var went by the rule book. If so, why then wasn’t Haaland booked for hauling Don to the ground. As he was on a yellow this would’ve meant he should have got a red card too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,190 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Just had a look back at our 13/14 season because I remember we got off to a lot of quick starts that year.

    This season we have scored 13 goals inside the first half of games, as mentioned above with only 3 goals coming before the 30th minute. In 13/14 we scored 15 goals within the opening 15 minutes, with 9 of those goals coming in the first 5 minutes of the match.

    We scored more goals in the first 20 minutes against Arsenal that season than in the first 30 minutes of 25 matches combined this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,820 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Endo was suitable in 23/24. I can't believe he can go from nearly 40 appearances (and Captaining Japan) to not being suitable to take the load off our midfield occasionally.

    That's just one example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,190 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Fitness management seems a weak excuse considering we're hammering Van Dijk into the ground. Pushing 35 years old and he's played every minute of every competition bar the League Cup.

    We played him for the full 90 minutes against Barnsley. We played him for the full 90 minutes against Qarabag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    I was thinking the same but apparently the line is that the ref didn't play the advantage, therefore Haaland's foul didn't count (and the goal didn't count). The debate now seems to have moved on to the question of, if the ball was going to go in anyway, and Haaland didn't touch it, it can't be denial of a clear goal-scoring chance, and Szobo should only get a yellow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    It's academic to an extent and Szobo knew what he was doing when he pulled him back, but it does indicate chaos with the interpretation of the rules of the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,190 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Funny enough had Szobo not done that we'd be below Brentford right now.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,305 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    This is what we all tried to convince ourselves last year when he didn't use the squad.

    Not so sure this excuse still holds water.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,305 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    No.

    If Szobozlai hadn't pulled Haaland back he likely would have made sure of the goal by tapping it into the open net. A clear DOGSO.

    Red card is the correct decision. Even if it had been in the box, it would still have been a red card as the double-jeopardy rule wouldn't apply here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,535 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I see Jacquet's season is over due to shoulder injury. We even have players not in our squad with season ending injuries.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,112 ✭✭✭riddles


    Thin squad whichnis only likely to tire from here on further making CL footie more unlikely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    As Carra said, 6 wins in the league sense September isn't good enough.

    I'd like Slot to turn this around but a handful of good performances in the best part of 12 months is a long way away.

    Ironically if our last two seasons were reversed, we'd all be OK with it, strange old world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Libertine07


    I don't think we would. Nine losses in twelve within the first half of his first season would be horrific, and he wouldn't have the credit in the bank from winning the league. We'd be thinking he was way out of his depth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Infoseeker1975


    We are lacking in a lot of positions; Konate is leaving which means we have several teenage CBs & VVD for next season.

    We have no regular RB as Bradley cannot play 10 games in a row nor can Gomez or Frimpong.

    We need a defensive midfielder and if we are only playing one CF then we need 2 wingers.

    No chance are we getting CL football, we are only just in the hunt due to the 5 wins in a row at the start of the season, we have won 6 in the following 19 games & no chance we will beat Sunderland - jasus that sounds grim. After that it is Forest away.

    We are good at generating revenue from sales and we will need this in the summer as without CL there will be limited spending.

    Personally I cannot see Slot being the manager at the start of the season, he would only have one year left on his contract. Surprised we have not changed it already though the person wanted may not be available.

    We have several players that are young enough and good enough to win the league; Szobo, Wirtz, Ekitike, Isak, Gravenberch and Kerkez imho has improved a lot so it is not all doom & gloom.

    When we scored yesterday and what a goal it was, I said to my son, can we for the first time in a long time see out a game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Does soccer need a penalty goal provision, similar to rugby’s penalty try, when a player illegally prevents a probable score? At the moment there seems to be an incentive to obstruct a goal under some circumstances. I’ve been irked about this since Kempes became a second goalkeeper for Argentina in the 1978 WC match against Poland. Yes, it would be complicated to implement but there is a principle at stake here which I will put rather melodramatically this way: crime should not pay. If you break the rules to stop a goal, it should be awarded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SteM


    It's difficult enough to get the same decisions made week to week as it is, we don't need more discretionary rules imho.

    If we were to take anything from rugby it should be a 10 minute sin bin where yellows can be reviewed and upgraded to red.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,427 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    IIRC Forest will play Fenerbache home and away the midweeks before and after our game against them. Not sure whether they are before or away before our game. We have the midweek off.

    Edit: Forest are away in Turkey the Thursday before our Sunday game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,159 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I'm looking at the run of our last 38 PL games, 13 from the back end of last season and the 25 played this season to date.
    Counting from the Villa game on the 19/02/25 to now, we've accumulated 53 points.

    Compare that to Arsenal in the same period who've accumulated 84pts, coincidentally the points total we won the League with last year.

    Our 53 points would have us finishing somewhere around Crystal Palace, or 12th.

    That shouldn't be survivable for Slot, no matter how much goodwill he has banked.
    The style of play and the lack of urgency or penetration is terminal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,390 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    So it'll be a lot worse when we get bested by them

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Infoseeker1975


    Thought we played really well in the 2nd half but we cannot manage games. If we were one up on Wednesday with 10 mins to go, I would not expect us to win and it is a frequent occurrence.

    Amzaing for Slot to win the league last year and I do not buy into the Klopp team as personally having seen Wender and Fergie leave, I thought this season is what we would have seen last year.

    However, it is not going to change with Slot imho, he has one year left in June and I doubt there will be an extension so if the right manager is available now, then we should act, maybe that person is not free. I also think heads should roll with the planning over the summer, yes we sold several players but we have no squad depth over spending a lot. Not signing Guehi at the start of the summer for 35m was really poor, hoping to save a few million whilst we splash 120m on Isak, any all of that is done and we can only look forward.



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