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Saorview Changes - 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭doney84


    I noticed over Christmas that when I press the info button on my LG tv when tuned to RTÉ1 it's showing the HbbTV icon. Not sure how long that's been the case though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭butwhynot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,150 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    We need a few more years of testing, just to be sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    As for test cards "proving" that a new service is coming… don't make me laugh.

    There will be no new content on Saorview unless someone is prepared to pay for it. That someone will definitely not be 2rn, and very very unlikely to be RTE (yes I know RTE own 2rn)

    It's completely bizarre that there's a "2025" thread and now a "2026" thread for something which hardly ever changes and then more likely than not it's a service being removed…

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 168 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    What new services is coming to saorview



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 cakedrive


    There's no pay TV or streaming services in this house for several years at this point. The TV is on from morning to night mostly on saorview, but a few hours of UK channels on satellite free to air.

    My aunt is saorview only. No internet, no streaming, no satellite. And she watches a lot of tv.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    From some of what I’ve seen, the test channels are sometimes a bit of a playground for the engineers. There was a thing about a year ago where they started putting old black and white patterns on overnight, only spotted it because digitalbitrate.com captured them. But they might as well have them, the space would be wasted otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    Fair play and I'm sure you and your aunt are not alone in being Saorview only with a little bit of fta satellite thrown in, but you guys are definitely in a small minority nowadays, which is actually a pity, because if I could get all the Irish channels in HD ( for me, this is a deal breaker ) and the UK channels on one box or tv, fully recordable, with full 7 day epg on Irish and English channels, with series link etc and no faffing about with enigma this and enigma that and needing a university degree in IT to set it up, I would be happy with that. I can only presume that the market must be too small for someone to produce a box that would do this. Even Saorview couldn't produce a proper pvr, only a doorstop piece of horse manure that didn't have a built in hard drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 EdmondB1


    Is it next year or the year after that RTE One +1 & RTE 2+1 are closing down ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 EdmondB1


    Over on a Facebook group, somebody was asking why can't there be more radio stations on Saorview and a ceo of one the ILR stations answered, saying that being on saorview wouldn't bring in an extra red cent in advertising revenue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,509 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I just noticed on the EPG for the Virgin channels that they close down from around 2 am to 6 am. I don't know if this is a recent thing, or if it has been like that all along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 168 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    They do close between 2 am to 6 an



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Yep, they just run continuous programme promotions during that time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think it is 2028. Yeah end of their new direction.

    This year is supposed to bring about a new schedule for RTÉ1 and 2. Live restart on the player, with 6000 hours of content on the player. Increase number of Children's hours by 100% on the player. But it doesn't say if this extra hours are for new Irish programming, archive or imports.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    I think they are missing an opportunity to make some money out of the player, why dont they offer an option like ITVx, where you could pay for example €5 a month to get it advert free ? Though I suppose there would be uproar as people would say they are already paying a licence fee .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 168 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    hi all. I see this test card on channel 25 and it has something on it. 2rn Ardghleine test card. Just wondering is there something going on or is there a another channel coming on the air



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭marclt


    RE: comments by ILR CEO:

    That cosy view might change when DAB roll out upsets the Apple cart. Being available where the audience is, is probably becoming more important as technologies change. But if content providers had been better curated at the outset, it could have been a real winner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭marclt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ardghleine just means high definition.

    There have always been test cards on Saorview. It means nothing.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭thomasking22008


    if test card on HD why they put on virgin media one 1 it been awful pic during rugby 6 nation ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,509 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Virgin won't pay the extra cost for HD. Probably because they would not make the money back from extra advertising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,273 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They also want to push people towards their paid services.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 168 ✭✭Aidan McCarthy


    And here is another reason why that virgin media won't put their tv channels in HD is because they have to pay for it on saorview and they are Mean out. That's what is wrong with them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,602 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I need help.

    I purchased a TV for my mother in a nursing home. She has always relied on subtitles but we can't get subtitles on this TV. She has a very a small 'Ideal' TV in her room that can get subtitles. The TV is connected to the wall using the normal TV cable. The nursing home have told us this is connected to an aerial on the roof.

    When we tune in the Samsung TV I bought using the same aerial, the pictures are received ok, but it's impossible to get subtitles. I tried for the first few weekends to retune and get them but no joy. I've now got the TV back at home where I can test it in my own time. Subtitles come through fine when there is a set top box providing the signal over a HDMI cable.

    But when I connect a pair of rabbit ears to the TV, I see the same behaviour as with my mother. Audio and video are fine but not subtitles. The TV model is Samsung UE43U7000FKXXU. 3 of us have followed the manual and googled for similar issues but no joy. Friends of ours who also have a Samsung TV using an an aerial also cant get subtitles.

    Any suggestions? The new TV is useless for my mother without subtitles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,509 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    AI Overview

    Yes, subtitles (Closed Captions) on a Samsung TV using an aerial generally require a better-quality signal than just the audio and video to function consistently. While you might receive a picture and sound with a weak, "just barely working" signal, the extra data required for subtitles is often the first thing to break, leading to missing, delayed, or jumbled text. 

    Why Subtitles Need a Stronger Signal

    • Data Stream Dependency: Digital TV via aerial (Freeview, ATSC) carries video, audio, and subtitle data in the same stream. If the signal quality is poor, the TV struggles to decode the text data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,034 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Well they have just bought the rights to show the nations championship free to air so not too bad really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,602 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Thanks dxhound. I was wondering that but thought that if a non-premium brand such as Ideal can show the subtitles using the terrestrial signal, surely a Samsung TV would be able to?

    Would the EEA apply in this case?

    Under the European Accessibility Act (EAA), implemented in Ireland via S.I. No. 636/2023, TV manufacturers and importers must ensure digital products, including smart TV interfaces and, crucially, the capability to display closed captions/subtitles, are accessible to people with disabilities. Coimisiún na Meán ensures compliance for these services.

    Would a signal booster definitely/probably solve this problem?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭dam099


    Not sure I would trust that AI answer. Subtitles should be using only a small amount of bandwidth and if the picture and sound which would use more bandwidth work seems unlikely the data stream wouldn't work. There should also be error correction going on if the signal is weak.

    Some TVs sold here are not properly Saorview compliant so its possible it doesnt support the Saorview subtitle encoding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,509 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Not all signals are equal from the many transmitters in the country. And every home installation is different. I don't think going after the Commission is a solution.

    AI Overview

    To receive Saorview in Ireland, an external (rooftop) UHF aerial is strongly recommended for the best, most reliable signal. While some areas may work with an indoor/attic antenna, an outdoor, professionally installed aerial ensures high-quality reception. A standard UHF aerial is required; specialised "digital" aerials are not necessary, though new installations should use modern UHF antennas. 



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    dig around in the settings. try this first Home > Menu > Settings > All Settings > General & Privacy > Accessibility > Subtitle Settings > Subtitle > On.



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