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Ryan Tubridy - From Virgin to Youtube **Mod: Read OP**

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  • #8312
    yagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    I never heard of any sympathy from Kildare st. If anything his current Enoch Burke type stalking of rte rekindles public anger at his benefitting from irregular and off book circuitous payments of license fee funds.

    He's literally a political headache.



  • #8313
    its_steve116
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124217601#Comment_124217601

    I agree.



  • #8314
    Bogey Lowenstein
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219269#Comment_124219269

    Newstalk actually made Ryan an offer during the hearing, but he never made a public reply.

    They have gone quiet since so they must have lost interest or maybe think he brings too much baggage.



  • #8315
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    It would be a serious risk for any commercial station in Ireland to take a punt on him.

    And an even greater risk for rte to re-employ him.



  • #8316
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,634 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Remember a year or 18 months ago, how Bertie started to be wheeled out again giving his opinions on anything and everything, to test the waters on a then probable presidential campaign? The negative response to any appearance of him on anything, as well as even CMAT name-dropping him alongside suicide in a song, put an end to any hope he & FF had and they switched to Gavin instead.

    Parallels with that, Subsidy is toxic to 90% of the country

    Post edited by retalivity on


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  • #8317
    mykrodot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219707#Comment_124219707

    it looks like they've filled all those slots now (thank God!).



  • #8318
    Cyclingtourist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219409#Comment_124219409

    And I disagree. YouTube 'comments' are the playground of the disaffected and don't represent the views of the general population.

    It will be interesting to see what questions the audience puts to Tubridy in tonight's edition of The Assembly Ireland on Virgin Media One starting at 9pm tonight.



  • #8319
    RoTelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219819#Comment_124219819

    The audience are a group of neurodiverse adults, so they are not your "normal" group of audience members and they have been selected to part-take in the episode.

    If you take Micheal Martin's episode nothing hard was thrown at him. So I suspect this will be a softball interview.

    Anyway Tubs is back, so why should YouTube comments be turned off?

    If you allow comments on Insta you should allow comments on Youtube.

    Hiding from criticisms doesn't really help.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • #8320
    Cyclingtourist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219839#Comment_124219839

    The audience are a group of neurodiverse adults, so they are not your "normal" group of audience members and they have been selected to part-take in the episode

    I think everyone is aware of the format of The Assembly Ireland which is a copy of the UK version. To me it's an interesting idea to get people who are possibly outside the comfortable consensus. Obviously it's not live and heavily edited but maybe they will ask questions that your average newshound wouldn't consider. We'll see tonight.

    Anyway Tubs is back, so why should YouTube comments be turned off?

    Where did I suggest YT comments should be 'turned off'???

    I merely made a comment about how they shouldn't be regarded as representative of general opinion on anything.



  • #8321
    RoTelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219881#Comment_124219881

    It's a copy of a french series.

    Neither should the so nice Instagram comments.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • #8322
    Morgans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭Morgans


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219881#Comment_124219881

    There wouldn't be too many retired grandmothers and bored south dublin housewives in the youtube comments section. Noel has made a sound business decision in turning them off.



  • #8323
    hawley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭hawley


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219921#Comment_124219921

    I presume that even the mildest questioning of him would lead to an instant block on Instagram. It's harder to control the commentary on YouTube.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • #8324
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219099#Comment_124219099

    Not sure if it's an Irish thing since Gaybo….but a Chat Show should be focused on its guests.

    The host is simply a facilitator. Prepare a few questions, probably the research team does this, and know when to let the guest speak. Challenge them occasionally. The less the host speaks the better. Like a referee in a football match, if we don't notice him then he's done a good job.

    This is part of why Tubridy annoyed so many people. Maybe he felt that with such a high salary people tuned him to listen to him, so he had to butt in a lot - especially topics he clearly had no clue about.

    Challenging politicians/public servants and holding them accountable is a whole different level. The likes of Pat Kenny or Claire Byrne are knowledgeable and articulate enough to do this. Not everybody can do this hence they are in high demand.

    Tubridy is just nowhere near.



  • #8325
    Cyclingtourist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219921#Comment_124219921

    Yes it's a French concept and format but has been copied in Britain, Australia and Canada. We in Ireland will be most familiar with the UK one.

    I don't know anything about 'Instagram comments' a lot of what I see on it appears to be sexualised videos of under-age girls and 'look at this, you'll be shocked' propaganda.

    But I will watch The Assembly Ireland tonight on Virgin Media One at 9pm, promises to be interesting and entertaining.



  • #8326
    Expunge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Jesus, what a week of "Flood the Zone" that was from Tubridy/NK. The White House would be proud.

    An expensive week of PR management and arm twisting and calling in favours.

    I wonder which PR firm got the gig?

    I saw one suggestion online that it may have been Gordon MRM (Media and Reputation Management) who may have helped Tubs and Noel during the Oirechtas hearing.

    Gordon MRM: Home



  • #8327
    RoTelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219986#Comment_124219986

    Only a few episodes from the UK I think its largely axed.

    Just go to Tubs Instagram account and the comments there, you will see what I mean.

    I won't be watching The Assembly as I missed the first 3 episodes.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • #8328
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124219979#Comment_124219979

    Tubridy annoyed so many because they felt he was not performing at a level recompense with his compensation or with market competition. It was the one big club of insiders looking out for one another.

    His interviews, broadly, were atrocious. He never picked up on anything interesting nor can I recall if he ever got an interviewee to reveal something they never planned to. Ryan was cue card question followed by cue card question. Follow up question? What's that?

    Arguably the only thing he did well was the toy show and even then he made it more about himself than the children.



  • #8329
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,267 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124215289#Comment_124215289

    Those contributors ancestors were touts to for the British forces



  • #8330
    Cyclingtourist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220085#Comment_124220085

    "Just go to Tubs Instagram account and the comments there, you will see what I mean."

    I imagine there's a lot of personal abuse of him on it, is that what you mean?

    I've no interest in reading Instagram comments but I will be watching The Assembly Ireland tonight at 9pm.



  • #8331
    BettyS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭BettyS


    I think that the reason that the LLS was so successful back in the day was because it tackled genuinely controversial and topical issues; such as Annie Murphy, abortions, lesbian nuns. They were tackling topics that people were only quietly discussing. A lot of the talk shows now are bland. It would be a risky venture, but he could start hosting debates on genuinely topical issues today. This would be far more interesting than on the drivel being produced on his YouTube channel



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  • #8332
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,509 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220107#Comment_124220107

    Tubs' grandfather was an IRA man.

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/herald/adams-riles-tubridy-over-ira-grandad/27942047.html



  • #8333
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220091#Comment_124220091

    To be fair to Tubs, and i am no fan, that was on rte, not him.

    If my boss thinks im worth 700k, ill not turn it away either.

    The thing that annoyed me was that this huge wage made him think he was above the rest of us, that he was super intelligent, that only his opinions mattered....



  • #8334
    HildaOgdenx
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220161#Comment_124220161

    he could start hosting debates on genuinely topical issues today

    I genuinely don't think he is capable of doing that.



  • #8335
    Cyclingtourist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    The LLS is a red herring, even Graham Norton is now largely a vehicle for movie promotion totally different to when he hosted So Graham Norton on Ch4. When GB hosted the LLS there were real controversies that shocked people, now it's someone using 'an inappropriate pronoun'.

    Tubridy's talent is in light entertainment and praised recently by Claire Byrne. He's no Pat Kenny.

    Whatever he does in the future I wish him well.



  • #8336
    Bogey Lowenstein
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220329#Comment_124220329

    Host on Ireland AM might be the best gig for him.



  • #8337
    yagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220349#Comment_124220349

    Mid Morning Matters segment?



  • #8338
    Bogey Lowenstein
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220355#Comment_124220355

    A book review segment or a book club like Richard and Judy used to do maybe?



  • #8339
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124220161#Comment_124220161

    There was also literally nothing else on (Network 2 didn't go on air until 1988, Today FM in 1997 and Newstalk in 2002) so it had free reign to be the Number 1 talk show in the country just by having so little competition. Nowadays I think do people even want that stuff on a Friday night.

    It's also difficult to find the right presenter like they had with Gay as the show mixes current affairs and also light entertainment. For a presenter that's a hard thing to find as if one wants to do current affairs they'll have no interest in light entertainment and vice versa.

    Then there's also the live bit so no room for error and that's before you add in possible libel cases. Just general mistakes, a question not going down well with a guest, or a guest who turns out to be boring will all be shown. All the American chat shows are pre recorded as is Graham Norton and Tommy Tiernan's show.

    So it's a completely different broadcasting market, that's very hard to present, and with no room for error. These aren't things that make a successful show.



  • #8340
    GSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭GSF


    I imagine we will never hear The Agenda mentioned after tomorrow. From the weekend gone you’d almost believe Tubridy was the star of the show rather than a one off guest



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  • #8341
    GSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭GSF


    From all the interviews his main regret is that he wasn’t strong enough to fight off his bosses desire to pay him more money than publicity disclosed. If only he’d been stronger in dealing with this menace of people secretly flinging money towards him



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