É bikes and scooters

One of them would be the need to pedal on e-bikes to get power. This I would regard as an arbitrary technical restriction which really only serves the purpose of making e-bikes less attractive.

I know having said, this someone will be on saying that without this restriction, e-bikes are essentially motorbikes! This, of course is incorrect. There's a vast difference in power and weight between the two, and so technically they don't meet the criterion.

Another would be the allowance of seats on scooters. Again there's no safety issue here. The purpose seems to be to make them overall less attractive to potential users.

The problem with these restrictions is that ordinary commuters, for example, who are quite happy to use these vehicles responsibly are put off, while those who don't care about rules become the predominant users. A lot of the complaints about e-bikes and scooters are not really about the devices themselves but rather the drivers of them.

But we really need to get people out of cars and onto vehicles that don't take up much room on the road. Bicycles, e-bikes, e-scooters and the like need to be encouraged.

Car drivers complain about anything that is not a car or motorised enclosed vehicle. Prior to e-bikes and scooters, they complained about bicycles, even though if all the cyclists instead opted to drive, existing car drivers' experience would be much worse.

Sure if they did that we would have a perfect society……

The war on drugs would be won in the morning and immigration would be solved "no Passport no entry", therefore solving the emigration problem. Y'know what the problem is ? We need to tax it!!

What utter rubbish. The position with respect to e-bikes and requirement for them to be battery-assisted as opposed to battery-operated predated the recent change in the law to allow powered personal transporters, ie e-scooters. It’s not that the law is some fixed item, it was determined that bikes powered solely by electricity are not permitted. I don’t know if you like in an urban area, I do and I walk a lot. Each day I get at least 10

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Operated without penalty jumping onto the pavement to reach their destinations. I think it’s fair to say that those muppets do not even realise the mass of their bikes or the impact they would have. By impact, I don’t mean necessarily a physical impact but rather the impact on visually impaired or nervous person (generally older) who is apprehensive (however I validly) of being hit and trips and falls to evade what probably won’t even be a collision.

I do think that a good case could be made for more powerful e-bikes to be used, would certainly be beneficial to get people to school, work or college over longer distances.

however, in my experience a lot of the purely electric ones are being used in areas where the cat cause lost potential harm.

Eamonn Ryan was well-intentioned; however, he failed to see that there needed to be control on the importation and sale of these mechanically-propelled vehicles rather than simply precluding their use. I don’t think it’s realistic to require licence plates etc.

however, it should have been possible to require that all such vehicles have a certification on them that they met the legal requirements for use in a public road (shortly to be public place) or else suffer immediate confiscation if found.

it’s easy to tell which are purely electric bikes, you just have to watch them speed uphill without pedalling. However, the chocolat le teapots which seem to consist of most on AGS do nothing unless there is a death or serious injury. Prevention is better than cure.

What cost to pedestrians are cars if you put it like that.

"...33 pedestrian fatalities and 285 serious injuries per year..."

I dunno what the old people aspect. Most falls are in the home.

They shouldn't allow illegal bikes and scooters to be sold. It's that simple. They should enforce the law.

Vastly more get knocked down by cars than anything else. Why do they not fear cars.

Who is creating this perception.

Well that is true.

I think asleep the media and others use "the new" to create FUD to sell clicks and self promotion (politicians) to the biggest audience. Car drivers and pedestrians.

And people have shifted into short attention span mode. Where they don't critically analyse or put much thought into what they read.

I think it was all very abstract and confusing relying on on vehicle classifications in the EU and Irish Authorities could have introduced legislation in plain English to clearly define things. They basically did nothing.

The traditional Manufactures did initially adhere to these EU classifications, the push assist eScooter is long forgotten now. But then there was a flood of Chinese vehicles that did not adhere to EU specifications and traditional Manufacturers had to bump up their specs to compete. The Govt made it worse allowing vehicle not adhering to any standard to be sold.

The Govt created the wild west we see today.

Really only matters what they do next. The messing put me off eScooters as an option for commuting. As it did many people I'm sure. Then they banned them off public transport. No longer an option for me.

The reason they were banned was the fire risk.