Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

I drive a Skoda Octavia 1.6 Diesel I spend €65 a fortnight on diesel. Roughly do around 15000km maybe a bit more. Approximately €1690 on diesel a year.
based on your figures not much of a saving driving a EV.

Would I be right in saying that?

15,000km at 5.5km/kwh=2727 kwh+10%(waste)=2,9999*.14c=€420

5.5km/kwh is about 18kwh/100km, so change that number depending on the efficiency of your car
I pay about 14c night rate.

Watched it the other night, well worth it. Also goes pretty nuclear for the last third of it.

what rates did you get?

Coming to the end of my energia ev plan, the good thing about the plan is the cheap 4 hour charging window. In the 4 hours 10kw batteries are charged, car gets charged, dishwasher, washing machine and hot water all working during this time.

Need to get others opinion on the other companies charging window of 3 hours what is achievable in the 3 hours?

If you ring them up and ask them what's the best deal they can do for you you can get a pretty decent discount. The only thing that bugged me last year was that a month after I did that, they increased their base rate by 25% pretty much wiping out the "savings". But given it's unlikely they will increase rates again for a while you could do well out of it. The 4 hours was the biggest thing for me.

I have a 15kw battery, 3 EV’s, Heat Pump, and in “theory”, i could go for Pinergy - “Night Time” which is next best priced option to current EV Smart Drive (24%disc), and avail of the 6 cent night rate - inc vat, and much higher export rate of 25 cent, but have decided its not a runner.

First off, Getting circa 28kw into one of our EV’s per night, is infinitely better than 21kw. It is true i don’t always need to get 28 into the car, but it just adds so much more flexibility,

Then, you have potential load issues if you reduce charging window to 3 hours, i have heat pump water heating timed for 04:45 as at that stage, 15 kw battery is full, it charges at 4.8 kw per hour, and charging curve slows down at around 94%, so i have washing machine and dishwasher timed for before 5am also.

I blew the fuse in the main fuseboard last year, and got it replaced with a trip switch, which has not gone off yet, but i often hit 14kw, for short periods, which is above the house load limit. The risk is bigger in winter as the heat pump could come on as well while charging EV and Battery, if you have :

EV charging: 7kw

Battery Charging: 4.8kw

Heat Pump heating: varies but can be 2kw

Moving to a 3 hour window means, 25% less car charging in a session, and potentially serious load issues also.

I looked at upgrading household load max, but its thousands to upgrade.

There is a relatively new SSE: Smart EV max tariff, which has a 6 hour cheap night rate, from 11pm to 5 am, which would solve all the above issues, and offer huge flexibility, but rates are too high, 12.13 night inc vat, 33.76 day inc vat, and annual Standing charge on this one is also €65 higher than Energia, Overall the SSE Smart Ev tarriff, would add circa €480 to my annual bill, as my current blended night rate with Energia is 8.50 cent inc vat. If that SSE night rate was 10 cent inc vat, i’d probably move to them for the pure convenience and flexibility.

Currently with Flogas and had reason to ring customer service - absolutely shocking. 45mins on hold each time and was told to email customer service as they could sort it. Waiting 7 days now on customer service and rang again today to be told they will respond within 20 days. Rates are good though.

Owner is a 22bn a year Irish energy firm, they just seem to completely misunderstood how to scale customer support to match market share.

They have reasonably large consumer market share in petrol sales and home heating oil both in Ireland and abroad but I think Flogas is their only consumer energy supplier.

Called energia today to see what my new rate will be when I renew.

Max discount is 10% of rates Ev smart plan

4 hour window .0942

All other times .4041.

Seems expensive but only company doing the 4 hour window,

You're getting hung up on the 4-window, it really isn't material at all.

Go to a 9-hour night window and stop worrying about a few cents, you're overthinking it.

same here, using > 11,000 units during 4 hour window, blended rate is around 8.5 cent as everything above 1,000 units per 2 months, is at higher rate.

the lowest 9 hour smart night rate, is around 13.50 cent with Flogas so 5 cent more, and € 550 extra annually, so not overthinking it at all !