General British politics discussion thread

Well I mean when it comes to Gaza and pretty much everything Starmer is a pos. Now imagine the difference in his response if you switched Israel with Russia and Gaza with Ukraine. Human rights lawyer mehole.

When asked on LBC if it was appropriate for Israel to cut off power and water to Gaza, Starmer replied: "I think that Israel does have that right, it is an ongoing situation.

He’s a pos and it’s crumbling down around him and I’ll be glad to see the back of him. It’s good for labour too to get rid of him as he’s inept and unlikeable and has terrible judgement. Farage only hopes he stays on.

There's no "conspiracy theory" or any other nonsense. What they tried to do was make an example out of 'Palestine Action' by labeling them as "terrorists" in order to deter other protesters from taking action. That they didn't just bring those members involved in criminal damage to account, but instead declared the WHOLE organisation as "terrorists" shows that. Putting 'Palestine Action' on the same list as ISIS or Al Qaeda wasn't some sort of accident. It was a deliberate move - coupled with the mass arrests - designed to instill fear into others.

Just because it didn't work doesn't mean that that wasn't the goal.

This seems to have blown up in their face though.

Good.

Labelling every single member of a group (and subsequently their supporters) using an indiscriminate blanket term of "terrorist" because you want to take the heat off of an actual terrorist state is not a good look.

FFS, you had OAP's being arrested for carrying signs with Palestine Action written on them a few months ago.

It does suggest that Zionist supporters in government and the British media may be living in a bit of a bubble. They seemed stunned yesterday that a jury would acquit members of PA - clearly not factoring in that Israel and Netanyahu have used up all their credit with the genocide and most people have zero sympathy for them now. Shouty fans of the genocide and the IDF in the media (who are PA's biggest critics naturally) are probably hugely over-represented.

Palestine is actually run by terrorists (Hamas) so your comment is way off. Here is a new concept for you. Both sides of a conflict can be very,very,very bad people. The bad guys with the bigger guns tend to win though which is what happened in this case.

100%, but what political party in the UK is claiming to support Hamas? The only one of the two sides to the conflict in Gaza that can be toxic for British political parties will be Israel - the penny may just be starting to drop for the media and the establishment that they are mostly disliked or even hated by the British electorate at this point. Trump claiming to be their No.1 supporter in the world and Netanyahu being in and out of the White House is probably doing them zero favours.

Palestine certainly is run by terrorists. It isn't Hamas though, it's the Zionists. It is Nethanyahoo and his lackeys who run Palestine, from the river to the sea. Mass murderers who are feted by the "good and great" of the collective West.

Well said. Crickets as expected.

Those aren't the mistakes. Leading a Labour party, that seems to be very conservative fiscally, without a visionary rejuvenation plan for the country is Starmer's main failing. Giving in to other voices (McSweeney) when his own gut was probably telling him it was a bad idea (Mandelson) demonstrates a lack of judgement.

Mandelson running off and sending 'do not talk to me' letters to the media