Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

You accept, therefore, that political leaders words can cause violence even if they don't outright call for it and those leaders are therefore responsible for what happens?

Wait until you find out what Trump was saying before the 2020 attempted insurrection.

Not an outrageous one, though. Most people assumed it would be. The GOP even thought to.

It turns out that at least half of the US citizens actively hate their country and want to do everything to rip it up.

Blame lies entirely with Mitch McConnell. Who now shrugs his shoulders as everything he ever stood for lies in a puddle of orange sh1t.

Does anyone else find the continuous support for Trump depressing? Be it in the US, and even pockets of people outside of the US (and in here). Although he hasn't been convicted of any wrong doing in the Epstein files, surely any right thinking individual has to come to the conclusion this man is a child rapist. And I don't buy the poorly educated part, you don't need to be highly educated, or even that intelligent, to come to this conclusion.

What we know for sure:

He was best friends with the world's most infamous child rapist for over a decade, at the peak of this person's offending, and it wasn't a secret to those even in Epsteins outer circle, what he was doing

He has done everything in his power to block the release of the Epstein files

He features in those files more than anyone else outside of Epstein (and that is only in what has been released, id imagine the worst are still to come, and are being heavily redacted as we speak)

There are multiple accounts, from multiple girls/women of assault and rape against Trump

He has a conviction in a civil court of rape

He is on tape admitting to walking into the changing room in a teenage pageant specifically to see underage teenage girls naked. He has also admitted, on tape, to grabbing and groping women without consent

And the biggest tell for me, he has never once acknowledged the victims of Epstein, and has abused reporters who have even mentioned the victims

These are all facts, not hearsay or rumours

Why I find this depressing, the only conclusion I can come to, is that those that still support him, have to harbour the same dark thoughts about kids. That's tens, maybe hundreds of millions of men worldwide.

Before now, the one crime that was universally condemned, even by fellow prisoners, was sexual crimes against children. Yet here we have the head of the US, and all these powerful and wealthy elites, that are obvious child sexual predators, and millions of people are ignoring it, or excusing it.

These files need to be fully released and every name on it investigated and held to account, to hell with the consequences. It's the only way to remove this cancer from society.

Trump is clearly involved in the Epstein case. Why else would he be pushing back against it?

I was thinking that this would actually be the perfect case for Trump to smash the Elites. To drain the swamp. He could lead the charge to rid Washington, nay, the US, of these people who felt they were untouchable, above the law.

Instead, he has done everything he can to try to shut it down, move past it.

So you need to ask yourself why? With such an open political goal staring him in the face, he refuses to shoot? The only conclusion is that he is deeply implicated, and he knows that if he leads the charge, it will take him down.

But his supporter believed he was going to drain the swamp. He was going to root out the Washington Pedos. And yet, here he is, doing his utmost actually to protect them.

Not entirely. McConnell has a huge amount to answer for in terms of turning the GOP (and the Senate generally) into the vehicle for Trump's omnipotence.

However, Trump was clearly leading in the polls from the start of 2023 at the earliest. Yet the Dems simply ignored the polls and decided that they could risk letting Biden run for a second term despite his obvious health and age issues. They made no effort to find a credible alternative candidate until it was too late, and also chose to basically ignore and wish away the economic issues that Trump was making so much hay with.

Donald Trump's Epstein nightmare: Memo alleges 2015 meeting just before presidential run

"The revelation comes as part of a massive release of more than three million items from the Department of Justice on Jan. 30, 2026. Buried within the classified files is a memo dated Dec. 13, 2017, detailing an interview with a confidential human source (CHS).

This informant, with whom the FBI had recently established a relationship, dropped a bombshell: Donald Trump reportedly met Epstein for lunch at one of the financier's properties in spring 2015 — just months before he descended the golden escalator to announce his historic presidential campaign on June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower in New York City".

Certainly looks like the FBI memo is genuine and the WH are denying as par for the course.

Would think Trump was seeking to put the frighteners on his mate, Epstein, to STFU as he was about to run for Pres, guess we all know how it ended up.

Anti immigration types who are in denial of how disastrous both of his terms were.

Two things:-

1. As is obvious from the whole Grok AI debacle, there is a good deal more fascination (if that is the appropriate word) at child abuse, at least in the vicarious sense, than many of us care to admit.
2. On the US electorate, I keep coming back to the Alabama Senate election of some years ago. The GOP nominated a reactionary judge called Roy Moore despite widespread allegations that he had been pestering children in shopping mall. Yet Moore still won 49% of the vote and only lost by a whisker to an extremely moderate, white Democrat. Moore may have been a suspected paedophile, but at least he was both white and under no suspicion of being a n——r-lover.

In US politics, race and the perceived need to protect oneself from 'others' (even from 'other' Hispanics who migrated more recently that you did) always seems to 'trump' what the rest of us would see as common decency.

Are you really ignoring the insurrection of January 6th? And you want to compare it to a party not overriding a sitting president's desire for another term?

Not at all, I reckon folks are perfectly aware it transcends all political parties and we just want to see Trump and his rich goons prosecuted.

Trump - found civilly liable for rape

Hegseth - accused of rape and paid off the accuser

Kennedy - accused of sexual assault by babysitter. When questioned about it he replied "I am not a church boy".

Musk - accused of sexual assault and paid off the accuser

McMahon - accused of protecting sexual abusers like she was an Irish bishop, case pending

Yeah, I've no idea why they're considered the party of sexual deviancy.

Not to mention Matt Gaetz, pictured here before and after his MAGA transformation

Google Roy Moore, Anton Lazzaro, Dennis Hastert, Ray Holmberg, Robert Morris (to be continued)….