Tesla Talk 2

Too many obnoxious posters.

I invested in VOW3, disclosed it openly and holding it for the long term. It will be paying me dividends in May which are going in to boring euro stocks. You and I are not the same.

I sold on the steep curve on the left, obviously not quite at the top 😂 I think it was around €82

Please note that BMW, VAG, Hyundai, KIA, Renault and even Toyota sold loads of EVs this January in Ireland. Love them or hate them Dealers shift metal and are going to play a crucial role going forward.

So why did you resurrect yourself ?

Oh Christ. I have been away since Saturday afternoon, not watched this thread. I will need to catch up. But yeah what would @Cyrus and I know about money or investments, we are only accountants.

Oh really? That's fecking ****. Why leave the "original" spec up if you're just going to try pass an inferior product off?

I don't think the saving on the price is worth the cut in spec.

Dear oh dear. The worst financial advice post I have seen in this forum for a long time. I honestly hope nobody will follow it. I am no Tesla fanboi and I am very careful with my money, but a new Model 3 standard with the €3500 extra trade in discount is almost certain to be the lowest depreciating car in its class

I am quite tempted to buy one myself

Not clear why the payment of a dividend (even if the company has to increase debt to do so) is deemed the principle characteristic to measure success. Ignoring the capital value/worth of any investment is blinkered. VAG do pay dividends, Tesla don't, preferring to retain profits to finance growth. In contrast VAG increases their debt.

Share price of VAG over 5 years has fallen approx 45% and when adjusted for the dividends this is a fall of 16.6%. In contrast Tesla has grown over 5 years by 42.9%. A gain of 42.9% against a loss of 16.6% represents a like for like comparison (adjusting for div policy). This is factual historical and who knows that the future holds for either..but banging on about dividend alone is naive and does not stand up to scrutiny.

Open questions as to whether if one buys FSD before 14th February that they really own it and can resell it with sale of car on second hand market.

https://electrek.co/2026/02/04/teslas-new-fsd-push-looks-like-a-gross-money-grab-they-have-questions-to-anwser/

its just sensible risk mitigation, its not tesla specific advice, i would suggest that for any EV give what we have seen in depreciation, market disruptions, technology changes etc.

For previous EVs I have had as company cars I see those models reaching mid life and encountering issues like HVAC issues, onboard chargers, motor bearings and battery cooling which along with rapid depreciation are almost enough to scrap the cars. I didn't encounter those problems fortunately and as they were company cars I just handed the cars back without worries about depreciation, extended warranty or being stranded on the side of road. PCP, lease or even HP on half rule is best way to get in to an EV so that you aren't left with a brick on your driveway.