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Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Epstein’s emails are fairly primitive: blunt, poorly phrased and full of typos. Nothing outstanding there. It’s hard to imagine the Gatsbyesque figure people claimed to have witnessed at one time. I’d say the politicians, smooth talkers themselves, were more impressed by the money and other perks that came their way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Very possible. If we’re being very generous we could say they exercised very poor judgment in not finding out about his background.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Something thing to be remembered for after all he has done for Polio eradication worldwide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Epstein's links to ex French Minister Jack Lang and family. Caroline Lang was in Epstein's will. Also links to a French elite figures



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,288 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Queens have moved at an unusually rapid pace to remove all links to George Mitchell.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,208 ✭✭✭Ardillaun




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,932 ✭✭✭take everything


    https://www.reddit.com/r/coldcases/comments/1o0neop/the_vanishing_of_gabriela_rico_jim%C3%A9nez_the_elites/

    This woman was at one of the parties attended by powerful figures in politics etc. and was completely disturbed by what went on there. She screamed about human sacrifice and eating babies and, most chillingly, vanished soon after.

    Why do we never hear about this in mainstream media.

    Not unlikely that she was killed and her family threatened into silence.

    This stuff is extremely dark and there seems to be a controlling narrative all the time about it just being conspiracy theory etc.

    Just the coded language of cheese pizza and hotdogs and weird artworks makes it incredibly obvious.

    These people are complete degenerates where unlimited power and wealth has totally corrupted them. Seems to be the way of the world with people happily turning a blind eye to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    It's mind-blowing that a top government figure like Mandelson would be just emailing classified information to a criminal like Epstein.

    How on earth did Epstein manage to 1) meet and 2) have such a hold over, so many influential figures across so many countries.

    Presumably for a simpleton like Andrew then a few attractive girls did the job. For somebody like Mandelson, it must be financial? But he's already well paid and I doubt he needs money - why take such risks….

    Epstein must really be a master manipulator.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    You just need to rewrite that with a mention of the Jews and you'd be sorted.

    You have ticked most other boxes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    You see all these Uk political journalists apparently shocked at Mandelson's involvement with Epstein, despite him being quite dodgy for all of his public life and having numerous scandals around him. You then see them all as a defence of him mention how "charming" Mandelson is which really reflects incredibly poorly on journalists in general as if they can be blinded by Mandelsons "charm" it does show you how incredibly shallow political journalists must be despite themselves giving off an air of great importance to themselves and their job.

    This scandal really does show that most political journalists really deserve nothing but contempt from the public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "For somebody like Mandelson, it must be financial? But he's already well paid and I doubt he needs money - why take such risks…."

    One of the few things rich f*cks want more than money, is more money.

    It's a game to them. It's not about needs, it's about 'number go up'. It gives them status, it gives them power, it gives them satisfaction.

    More than enough money, is still not enough. So for the likes of Mandelson, slip a bit of info to the likes of Epstein to make Epstein richer, he slips you back a bit of money for your work, and you get more money. It really can be as simple as that. And his arrogance that he'd never be caught or punished was pretty well founded considering how many times he was brought into disrepute, resigned or stepped away, and then was brought back into the fold like nothing happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I'm not totally sold that it's completely about money, though Epstein did pay what would seem to be relatively trivial sums to Mandelsons partner. So if he was buying favours, they came cheap.

    I think it was more about staying in Epstein's inner circle, maintaining the network with the other rich powerful players. Mandelson could see the writing was on the wall for him and New Labour and was setting himself up for a life post politics. What better way than to pass insider information to your friends.

    More broadly speaking though, it really shows how the market is rigged. What once could have been dismissed as outliers or even conspiracy has been demonstrated at being at the heart of government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh for sure. I just meant he probably could have retired fully ages ago and lived off the money he already had, maybe a few speaking engagements or consultancy work here and there. But he likely wanted to stay in those more elite circles with Epstein et al for money, influence, lobbying etc, all to keep the money flowing in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,827 ✭✭✭plodder


    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Mandy will never see the inside of a cell. He has too many friends in high places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,932 ✭✭✭take everything


    I don't know what to make of your post. If you want to write something about Jewish people, go ahead.

    But my post stands as I've written it. This woman who reportedly was a model at one of those Elite models parties attended by powerful people was very disturbed by something she witnessed there. Whether or not it was a psychotic break or not, there has been no or very little reporting on what happened to her since. She vanished.

    And the stuff about cheese pizza and hotdogs is going on for years with these elites. I have yet to hear an innocent explanation for that crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Petermc83


    Theres evidence of $75k being lodged into Manys account… and his comeback is… " i have no memory of this ever coming into my account"….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I ran that through chatgptzero thinking it might have been a windup but it came back human.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭redshift-rider


    He figured out what people wanted. For some it was girls, for some it was to meet certain people. You can see in many emails that he tried to entice people by saying that so-and-so would be on his island. Come to my island Peter Thiel will be there.

    With Bill Gates im sure the bait was philanthropy. I honestly don't think you get Gates to a party by saying there will be girls there. Even if he's a total sleeze he's a smart man, he's been around the block a few times and he wouldn't be so easily manipulated.

    Once you get someone to your island you control the environment. All the food, all the drink is supplied by you. You can easily drug someone and have them wake up with a 16 y/o beside them. Maybe they did nothing at all, maybe you just conked them out and took photos with a girl in the bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭jacool


    I read this as "Queen have moved at an unusually rapid pace to remove all links to George Michael".

    Need to get some fresh air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Very close links with the Russian oligarch, Oleg Derispaska, the metals tycoon when Mandy was an EU Commissioner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Very close links with the Russian oligarch, Oleg Derispaska, the metals tycoon when Mandy was an EU Commissioner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Mandy was a Bilderberger also a member of the Trilateral Commision, as was Epstein and Starmer.

    I'm finding it a bit rich that Starmer is now getting on his high horse considering his record with Jimmy Savile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Well, he didn't appoint Jimmy Savile as UK ambassador to the US.

    Starmer's defence of "Mandelson lied to me" reminded me of Michael Martin when they asked if he vetted Jim Gavin….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,932 ✭✭✭take everything


    What part of my post could possibly be a wind up. I haven't said anything untrue.

    Surely anyone who isn't a shill for an elite class accepts by now that many wealthy and powerful people, including among them heads of state, industry and nobility (UK and Norwegian royals) are corrupt (in every sense of the word).

    That many of these people have a particularly odd predilection for minors. That these idiots were compromised by a guy who was deeply connected to intelligence agencies and was blackmailing and essentially controlling them.

    A guy who himself was into, among other things human cloning, torture and "cheese pizza" (it's right there in his goddamn emails to these people FFS) with weird artwork of minors and babies in his kitchen.

    That much of the mainstream media (and not so mainstream media as well) is comparatively muted about this. And instead running with a supposed connection to Russian Intelligence.

    A wind up would be saying there is nothing to see here at all. Which some people seem to be doing now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    ..

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Starmer is finished, he knew Mandelson was still in contact with Epstein and still gave him the job.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭ronjo


    Pretty mad if this takes down the head of the British Government while head of US Government was Epsteins actual best mate and no sign of any repercussions.



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