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Scramblers Banned!

  • 04-02-2026 10:00AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭


    I see the Government are bringing in laws to completely ban scramblers in public places:


    In my opinion, the law is not the problem. Arent most of these lads uninsured/unlicensed anyway? What difference is this law going to make?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,470 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Does forestry count as a public place, fire roads etc?

    Do we even need extra laws, shouldn’t the bikes be lifted if they’re not road legal, taxes and insured etc under current laws.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    It's already illegal to ride an uninsured, unregistered bike on the road if you are under 18. There are scum flying around on robbed motorbikes and scramblers all over parts of Dublin for years now, going the wrong way down streets, doing wheelies through traffic/red lights etc. I'm pretty sure that's all illegal too, but they are just left at it.

    A few nice words though - looks good for the headlines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    We haven't seen the draft yet so it's a bit early to judge.

    In the meantime enforcement of existing legislation should be a priority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    What is a scrambler though?

    Can it be specifically defined?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    If it's open to the public it's 'a public place' so yes but ultimately the courts will decide. They will still be legal on private land presumably.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭adaminho




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,565 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This will make zero difference unfortunately. That cannot enforce the laws that already exist. How can they enforce new ones?

    Feral scum on these bikes will still be laughing at the rest of us.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,867 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    This is a pretty incredible quote from that article...

    When these gardaí contact their control room to request permission to pursue, they are being asked if there is a “containment co-ordinator” with them. This means a garda who is trained in pursuits...

    ...there are no trained containment coordinators in Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    It's going to be called Graces law, just maddening, it's just smug crap so they can pretend they give a **** with as little effort as possible. Let the guards do their job and maybe lower the age of culpability and/or hold parents responsible.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    This is just the government be seen to be doing something. All the laws are there already they just need to be enforced. The real issue is how the Garda hands are tied behind their backs in how to deal with it. It is that that needs to be looked at.

    We know the scumbags doing this are doing it to provoke a response from the Garda, either for the Garda to chase them or scumbags to chase the Garda from the area and show how tough they are. Garda management are the ones that need to come up with the ways to deal with it, its seems they have taken a hands off approach to it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭OrangeNinja


    Knee jerk "let's do something" nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,072 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,810 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    This 100%.

    If RTE weren't so "compliant" and politicilly connected you'd expect a Prime Time on this very thing - the lack of enforcement/punishment for existing laws.

    Whether this is a man power thing, a judicial thing or a practicalitity thing.

    We badly need to see these laws being enforced and people who break them given PROPER punishment. I am tired of hearing that these people are disadvantaged, come from bad backgrounds etc but the reality is lots of people come from these backgrounds and aren't breaking the law on a regular basis. They get enough social supports in this country NOT to have to break the law.

    We need some serious reform of the justice and prison system to properly knock these social issues on the head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭plodder


    Pretty cynical really since the gardai clearly state that existing laws are sufficient. What they need are new capabilities like drones that can stay in the air for several hours.

    But, it seems they aren't allowed to use drones for this purpose. They can be used for delivering post and coffee but not for protecting the public.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/16/gardai-not-allowed-use-drones-to-track-scrambler-bikes-terrorising-communities/

    Worth pointing out that that article is from last October, and before this tragedy. What have they done since October one wonders? If they were able to pass emergency legislation to ban scramblers why couldn't they instead have passed whatever (even temporary) authorisation for the gardai to use the drones?

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,403 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    They're shoehorning in mandatory helmets and hi Vis for e-bike users too. Thanks guys, that'll help.

    They don't enforce the law regarding lights on bikes, so a new law about hi Vis will surely help. And how will they define hi-vis?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,370 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Reactive virtue signalling nonsense that passes for politics in this country. Won’t make a blind bit of difference in reality but at least the lads in Leinster House can clap themselves on the back and tell each other what a great job they’ve doing.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,625 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Based on the On the Beat series on RTÉ, the Gardaí don't chase youths because they would be on the hook if someone was hurt. The Met in the UK appear to be able to use full tactical stops.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Isthisthingon?


    It's comforting to us all to know that what was once Illegal is now Super - Illegal.

    This will no doubt help the judges when sentencing.

    ' I hereby give you a super suspended sentence , off you go and we'll see you same time next week…. if that suits'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    These nonsense laws just make life that little bit more awkward and annoying for law abiding citizens while the scumbags carry on as before.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Hopefully the shortcomings in the current legislation will be addressed in the new draft.

    AGS will just have to do the best they can until they get the backup they need to really tackle the problem.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    It is already illegal to drive a scrambler (mechanically propelled vehicle) without Tax and Insurance on public property. So what is the difference? Can the Guards not enforce the current laws?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Get Real


    If this new law wasn't a window dressing operation, surely it'd include within it a specific exemption for Gardai from crossing white lines, or going the wrong way up streets etc.

    I mean, in theory, Gardai are exempt from road traffic laws while on duty. But the type of person to be rallying a scrambler around on a public street, is the type of person who will simply zoom off upon being seen by Gardai.

    Onto footpaths, up laneways, into one way streets. Given Gardai have been prosecuted for dangerous driving for following burglary suspects, how much weight does this legislation actually hold?

    Grand, it'll now be illegal to have them in a public place. When a fella in a face covering simply speeds off on seeing Gardai, will they be protected for pursuing him if he hits an innocent pedestrian or kills himself while fleeing?

    Because all some young lad has to do is drive off and the law means nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,960 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    im not sure what issue this law is addressing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,072 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The issue of politicians having to be seen to do something, anything when an entirely predictable tragedy like happened last week occurs.

    It will do nothing to address the actual problem on the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,106 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    And wait for it….the same hypocrite TDs slating the government for not enacting law will be the ones criticizing gardai if the gardai come down proper hard n heavy on these chavs on their scramblers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    What's new here? They are all already illegal



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    The only law that will work is allowing guards to ram them to force them to stop and give them complete immunity from prosecution for any injuries or deaths.

    The message needs to be "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Why should others be injured or killed because the guards can't enforce the law?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    They should be making it illegal for anyone under 18 to be allowed ride an e-bike or e-scooter also and if they are found on one it will be confiscated. If the owner wants it back they can go to the garda station and pay a hefty 4 figure fine to get it back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    In last number of years a toddler was hit by a scrambler, but thankfully recovered...nothing was done.

    A Lithuanian man was rendered into pretty much vegetable state after a scrambler landed on his head...again nothing done.

    Do we always have to wait until someone's actually killed before we get the finger out and do something in this kip??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭XT1200


    Another knee jerk reaction from politicians. The laws are already in place to seize uninsured. untaxed and unlicensed vehicles. Enforcement is what is required and not more unenforced laws.



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