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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Do you not believe that casualty figures are being weaponised by both sides?

    Interesting you take that position now, but you swallowed Hamas propaganda wholesale because it suited your world view. I guess we need someone on RTE from the Iranian regime to give 'balance' eh?

    https://www.euronews.com/2026/01/27/iran-protests-death-toll-could-surpass-more-than-30000-reports-claim

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    In conclusion I dont see the Iranian Regime as good , neither do i see the Americans as knights in shining armour. The US has engaged in terrorism and supported terrorism throughout the world over the last 50 years. Yet some posters are in denial about this or want to portray it as for the greater good. I know i will be dismissed as far left for this - viewed in the same ranks as Mick Wallace, but this is infact wide of the mark because I have very little time for those who denounce American foreign policy but then act as apologists for Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I am opposed to the killing of any civilians regardless of who kills them.

    Yet you seem quite strident in your defence of the Iranian regime who have already admitted in killing over 3,100 civilians, and with more reports coming out it could be as high as 30,000

    Odd that isnt it?

    It seems the death of an Iranian protester is not worth that much to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    And here you are again, defending the Iranian regime and nit picking.

    But anyway..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mahsa_Amini



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    So, you are shown evidence of a woman beaten to death over refusing to wear a Hijab and your reaction is:

    • Argue a technicality about how many 'strands' of hair were shown
    • Refuse to accept the evidence given
    • Post links about deaths in the West to counter
    • Dont accept any wrongdoing in Iran that lead to the death of Masha Amini

    In all you will defend the Iranian regimes to the hilt regardless of what evidence of Human Rights abuses is show to you. Your favourite counter is whataboutism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    1000%

    The death of Masha Amini led to huge protests in Iran, but the regime put them down with violence, and no one was held accountable. These protests led to the deaths of over 500 people, with near 20,000 arrested.

    But it's EXACTLY the same as what happened in France dont you see, no difference at all..

    The level of delusions some people seek to argue for the Iranian regime is something to behold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I haven’t defended anyone being killed.

    First this and then followed with..

    Was Masha Amini executed for displaying a single hair as the poster claimed Homelander? Do you agree that that is true?

    ..this obtuse argument.

    You are defending her death by going down this rabbit hole of technicalities over strands of hair on display. For someone who is so concerned about human rights and civilians, you have not shown one bit of it here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I dont think posters who support Israel should be lecturing others about human rights and concern for civilians. Talk about cognitivie dissonance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    You claimed Saudi Arabia assembled the force not hosted it. If you go to IKEA, purchase some flat pack furniture and put it together in my house would you claim that I assembled the furniture?


    You are still presenting your opinion as fact Mark.
    You are arguing that Irans military today is a “nothing army” less powerful than the Iranian army of nearly 5 decades ago by claiming that their technology today is decades old??

    Then you argue that Iran’s military was bigger in 1985 and bizarrely use the example of Russia where a big army can make little headway against a smaller army. Tanks in the Russian invasion of Ukraine have proved ineffective due to drone technology. Iran is one of the most prolific producers of military drones. Iran helped change western military doctrine from small numbers of high end expensive drones to single use drones used in swarms.
    1980s armour is readily destroyed by modern era drones and missiles.
    During the 12 day war Iran bombed Tel Aviv, Haifa, Petah Tikva, Beersheba, Ashdod, Safed amongst others. Despite American troops being stationed in Israel operating THAAD batteries and US, UK, French and other forces defending Israel from Iranian missiles. Do you believe Iran could have struck Israel in this way in 1985?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer



    You were not able to give one example of an Iranian or Venezuelan government spokesperson on RTE and you are calling bull sh1t? Seriously?

    Conspiratorial nonsense? Just like all the other war narratives that were used as casus beli and those questioning them were dismissed as conspiracy theorists. Gulf of Thonkin, Nayirah Testimony, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Forty Beheaded Babies, Benghazi, Operation Horseshoe, Iraqi Yellowcake, Medical Students in Grenada, etc, etc

    Then whatta you know, the spin was BS and those being sceptical were proved correct.

    Look at the current threatened strikes on Iran. First it was because of an imminent nuclear threat. Then it was to protect protesters. Now it’s a deal is possible as long as your missiles can’t reach Israel.

    Zero fücks given about human rights or civilian casualties.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Obtuse? You are being totally disingenuous.

    The poster claimed that she was “executed” for displaying a single hair. If you believe that is true then there is no point attempting to have a genuine discussion with you.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I stated the truth which is the posters claims that women in Iran are executed for displaying a single hair is BS.

    If you can show a case of a woman in Iran who was executed for displaying a hair or her hair please share it. Otherwise stick to the facts please.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    You are a big boy Mark. Why don’t you answer the question.
    Was Masha Amini executed? Please show any civil rights or human rights organization that claims she was.
    Go on.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭brickster69


    All the psycho's are coming out on the airwaves now. Iran is a big threat to the region and Israel, they will attack the 18 bases we established in their backyard, they will build a nuke and destroy us despited us being 12 thousand miles away.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Marco Rubio told Congress that because they had sailed a carrier group strike force within range of Iranian missiles in order to strike Iran, they may have to pre emptively strike Iran to protect their carrier group task force. Perfect circular logic.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Please show us the link to the Iranian regime admitting to killing 3,100 civilians.
    Go on Mark.
    Back up your claim.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    You are correct, Iran has been doing it for much longer than 200 years, several thousand years in fact.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

    Was it only 3,100? Maybe you are leaving out the ones shot dead in their hospital beds.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/17/middleeast/iran-supreme-leader-khamenei-protests-criminal-trump-intl-latam

    "Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, acknowledged Saturday that thousands of Iranians were killed during more than two weeks of unrest in the country."

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/17/irans-khamenei-says-us-israel-links-behind-thousands-killed-in-protests

    "Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei says actors linked to the United States and Israel were responsible for killing “several thousands” of people during weeks of antigovernment protests in the country."

    How many have to be killed to meet your definition of genocide? Is it all Israel's fault?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Definitely I think genocide by either Israel or Iran should be called out. The middle East does seem to be a hotbed for mass killing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Do Iranian backed militias not count? Not as if Iran is in a position so it's not a good comparison. Would you trust that regime with the power of the USA?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Genocide isn’t defined by numbers killed.
    If the figure you link to in that well known online newspaper of record, the Iranian International, is correct and you deem it genocide and call for US intervention. After the killing by Israel of over 70.000 including another 28 mostly women and children today. Will you call for a US intervention to save civilians killed by Israel in Gaza or do you support the US, just today, approving another $6.7 billion dollars in weapons for Israel to continue killing civilians?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Not many mohawks left in North America now. They were genocided by European colonialists, their land and wealth stolen, just like what is happening to Palestinians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Let us have a big war and reduce the World's population substantially to reduce the demand on resources so that something good comes out of the latest colonialism. China needs to stop waiting and deploy more aggressively to protect its economic interests.

    Iran plans to hold joint naval exercises with China and Russia in the northern Indian Ocean region in mid-February, Iranian media reported on Saturday amid elevated tensions with the US, Anadolu reports.

    The semi-official Tasnim News Agency said the eighth edition of the joint drills, known as the “Maritime Security Belt,” will bring together naval units from the three countries.

    The exercise will involve units from Iran’s regular navy and the naval forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), alongside naval forces from China and Russia, the report added.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Wildgreen that sounds like a clever take but in my experience when you study history it’s absolutely what humans have been doing all throughout history just frequently on smaller scale. The humans with better technology often coming out on top. In our modern comfort world it’s impossible to justify this behaviour because it’s so obviously wrong to us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,348 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2026/0201/1556191-middle-east/

    They are so fcuking hateful, the Israeli leadership.

    I view this Israeli state the same way as I view Nazi-era Germany. And it's 100% because of their own thoughts and actions.

    513 Palestinians killed during the ceasefire, no response, no outrage, no support.

    Why dont they have the right to defend themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,223 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I saw that headline. Absolutely disgusting move by Israel. The only reason they are banning MSF is that they don't like the bad press that foreign doctors and nurses bring home. Also they can't murder these MSF staff as easily as they murder Gazan healthcare workers. Sick sick twisted psychopaths.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I presume marko you condemn this move by Israel since you care about the plight of civilians whether they are Iranian or Palestinians. It's why presumably you would also welcome a military intervention by America in both Iran and Israel to stop the killing of civilians.



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