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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,761 ✭✭✭✭_Brian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,761 ✭✭✭✭_Brian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,761 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Close enough so they can eat some without pulling through but piking afterwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,761 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Bare 12ft, single side feed with wall other side. Old slatted shed from mid 70’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,110 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    We split bales in half as we feed and push in with bales spike day two and three. Would have a bit of piking but nothing substantial we use a two bale spike. We have 2 feet more but we have gates on other side to slats that are fed outside

    Small mini digger on rubber tracks if you can pick one up handy

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭divillybit


    https://www.donedeal.ie/silagegrabs-for-sale/silage-pusher/32376662

    Seems like all you need is something to push in the bale a day or two after putting the bales in. A silage pusher might work for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,761 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    with feed passage narrow and I put bales at the feed pens I can’t get back up the passage to the top until the bales are gone.
    that’s why I thought a bale shredder would be attractive as I could load the bale and feed in against the barrier as needed. Maybe every second day. As it is I’m loading in bales twice a week.

    It’s not a massive heartache as we’re small fry but when the back is sore liking silage is a pain, literally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,436 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    That's what the pushover is for, invented by a man with a bad back also with a 1970s slatted house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭divillybit


    Would al bale shredder not be an expensive and slow way of feeding cattle. I think those machine are for chopping straw for bedding. No need to be chopping silage again when its probably fairly well chopped when its being baled plus its more diesel burned. Sounds like a silage pusher tyre is the cheapest fix for you. Our neighbour has a tight passage like that and uses a bale splitter. When he has the bale split in half he backs into the half of the split bale thats furthest away from the barrier and grabs it with bale splitter and pulls that half forward and backs it into the barrier. He works it off an oul 2wd zetor. Its the tight turning circle of the tractor that means he can manoeuvre the bale. No need to be bursting yourself graping silage these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,436 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    He has front loader, not sure why he cant loosen it up and shake it out even with an old loader



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,110 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    A lot with silage is the way its made. It has to be well chopped. Some co tractors remo e sone ofvthe knifes, if they go faulty they are reluctant to repair during the season.

    Happened one year with my contractor its seems about a dozen of us commented to him about it without being nasty. They went faulty earlynin the season. Well chopped bales break up easy when handling. As well dry silage is a lot easier to break up whether with a spike, grab or a pike.

    Seriously would consider a cheap mini digger rather than spending the same money on a shredder.

    @_Brian when you put the bales in with the loader are you putting them in whole or splitting in front of the pen. Are you using a grab or a pronged bale spike to place. Are you.placing sideways or face to barrier.

    If I was putting in my dry well chopped bales I would use the spike to split and place two.parts of the bale in front of the pen or place them face first towards the pen if not split so when cattle have them half eaten I could push over with a fork

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Could you knock the wall.the days of piking silage should be long gone in yards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭DBK1


    A 12 foot passage is a bit on the narrow side but still plenty big enough to be able to work a tractor in without forking silage.

    Is it a long passage and what way are you feeding currently, a spike or grab? Do you just put a bale per bay? If I’d a passage like yours I’d start at the furthest end of the passage and drop the bale standing like a bean tin out about 5 foot from the barrier. Take off polythene and net, knock the bale over toward the barrier and then roll in back with the loader like you’re unrolling a carpet. It’s easy stick the spike into it and loosen it a bit if it’s not unrolling fast enough. You’d cover 2 to 3 bays with a bale. Repeat the process until all bays have silage. Either make or buy yourself a cheap pushing wheel you can pick up with the tooth of the spike or grab and use that to push in the silage as required.

    It might take a bit longer than usual to put in the bales but for the next few days until you need to put in bales again you’ll have the silage pushed in with the tyre in a minute or 2 and zero time wasted forking.

    Something like this is all you need.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/38121828



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭divillybit


    That silage pusher like in the link above are awkward enough to line up to the box iron get on a prong of a front loader. We've one that two prongs slot into it but I never use it as the bale unroller leaves the silage close to the barrier. a euro loader bracket silage pusher would be a better purchase but the one I linked above on the 3 point linkage with the hydraulic ram looks very handy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭DBK1


    A euro bracket or linkage one is a complete waste of time unless you’ve a spare tractor you can leave it in full time. No one is going to spend the time getting out of the tractor, plugging out the hoses from the grab, dropping off the grab and picking up the wheel. It’s too slow and cumbersome an operation that way. Being able to pick it up with the grab is the only way to have it or it won’t be used.

    I’ve one like yourself that 2 teeth off the grab go into and it’s very easy pick up in seconds once you get the knack and it’s used every day. I’ve a neighbour has one that’s picked up with one tooth and he never had an issue picking it either and uses it every day too. They’re also only a fraction of the price of the linkage mounted new. The one you’ve linked could be €1,500 plus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Jesus lads the few minutes spent in front of the cattle is invaluable your looking at them you notice one that is slow to come out maybe down in itself i know it's not like looking at them of a summers day but you need to spend time them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Being able to push in your silage without having to do it manually doesn’t prevent you from doing that. You can still walk up and down the passage and watch them eating after the silage is pushed in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    does anyone not just have a tone grab on the front of the tractor? Using the tone grab you can carry the bale close to the tractor than any other way, can clear waste and can easily push in the silage.

    People fair over complicate silage feeding of bales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭DBK1


    The wheel I’m talking about is picked up with the tine grab.

    I done exactly what you’re talking about for years but if you’ve 8 or 10 bays it’s a lot of going forward and backwards on the tractor pushing it all in. The wheel I have I bought in Hennessey’s auction for €160. Pick it with the tine grab and drive the length of the passage way pushing in the silage without stopping. It’s by far the simplest and quickest way you can possibly push in silage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    @divillybit

    Have one similar to that made up here. Serious time saver and it has only room for one tine. Pick up in less than 10 seconds. The knack is to tilt the time so you can see the tip of it.

    Feeding bales and pit here in a 12ft passage feed both left and right. With bales it's just a matter of open the bale grab a bit and put in from of each pen. Working from the back of shed towards the door. 2 bales for 2days approx. The only pain in the backside is hoping up and down with plastic. You would be delighted when the pit gets opened

    Very quick to push up silage really comes into it own with pit silage. Very easy to check stock coming to the barrier if you are observant fron the seat of the tractor or when giving a bit of meal.

    That pusher saves the guts of 2 hours a week here feeding over 150 head. When your working full time that's vital



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    When feeding bales the wheel is pick up with the tine grab, with pit it's the shear grab. Anything to avoid having to swap hoses and that's even with a hydraulic quick hitch on the tractor loader. ( It was on it when I bought it and would deffo consider it the next time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Yea same as that when it comes to picking up the wheel, just tilt out the grab so you can see the end of the tooth and it’s simple catch it then.

    I have seen lads leave 1 bale standing like a bean tin in the yard and leave the wheel sitting on top of it every time. When picking it up then the teeth of the grab are above the bonnet and it’s very easy to see exactly what you’re doing then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭divillybit


    Well @_Brian did say he has two tractors so its reasonable to put the silage pusher on the 3point linkage of the loader tractor and put in the bales with the front loader and still have a tractor free. The pusher ive linked actually has euro fittings so could be used with a front loader. But lookit, each to their own. Hope _Brian gets something sorted to save his back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Omallep2


    That's the process I have in tight passage with splitter for years. Very little forking/graping



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭divillybit


    https://www.donedeal.ie/manurespreaders-for-sale/slurry-tanker/41467280

    Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does a tanker collapse like in the ad here? Like did the end of the pipe stick to the bottom of the tank and the operator not realise the pump was labouring? Or could the valve have closed with the vibrations?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,436 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Either or, happened me before, can't remember reason as the pop took me by surprise.

    It showed I had a good vacuum pump tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    If the tank wall thins out enough through rust inside it can go like a paper bag too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,855 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    shear grab is taken on and off multiple times a day here. Don’t think anything of it all tbh. I’m able to release the pressure on the hoses with the tractor still running



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,886 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


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    New (to me) toy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Il admit its a stupid question before asking. But what does it do



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