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Aer Lingus Fleet/ Routes Discussion Pt 2 (ALL possible routes included)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭BestWestern


    No sign of a 90th livery then?



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    I doubt that will happen.

    Current C suite arent even slightly "outside the box thinkers"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Gary walsh 32


    The cancun flight is operated by ei gcf which it has been since it started is there a reason for this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    It’s got a crew rest so fits in nicely for now from a scheduling pov as SEA isnt back running and SFO and LAX aren’t daily yet.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Scheduling keep the same reg on a route sometimes. LRD did the Hartford run for a good while before Christmas

    GAJ, EIN and EIM also have crew rest so im sure theyll rotate CUN between all of them at somestage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    They 100% will yep. If you can keep a reg on a route then it makes sense to do it! Look at YYZ and SEA the last couple of years…althoug GCF is the same config as the other “LR’s” as EI call them but if they can tie it in easy it makes sense to do so.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    There are 6 A333 with crew rest. Could be that the there are 3 covering SFO/LAX/SEA.

    CUN may not line up with the regular/winter schedule. EG land in from SFO at 1140, depart for LAX at 1500.
    With another 2 in winter checks perhaps?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,332 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    What sort of pilot crew would be required for a DUB-CUN-DUB trip?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any update on EI XLT?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Touristx73


    DUB-CUN will resume 24th October 2026 rather than Jan 2027, still 3x weekly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Lapmo_Dancer


    Only 4 A333s have crew rest (GCF, GAJ, EIM and EIN)



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭basill


    Ref Shannon. Ccms are Dublin based now. So only taxis would be for the TA flights out of Shannon and the LHR/SNN overnights. Locally living staff as always can make own arrangements. Whilst the base closed on paper there never seems to be a shortage of cabin crew willing to oblige the company to avoid a drive to Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Manchester base 31st March closure confirmed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dean333


    MAN to close MARCH 31st with a reduction in JFK service from Feb 23rd, with EI seeking approval for DUB to Barbados in April/may for rescue/recovery flights


    Opinion: I expect to see a return Dublin to Barbados potentially in winter 2026 for more winter sun destinations with the likes of cancun starting in October 2026 not Jan 2027 now with the such success



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Running from Dublin for 2 months is also a market test exercise to see what demand they could drum up. Barbados for Winter 2026 appears likely with a good feed from EU/UK



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dean333


    I’ve heard from someone, that one of the 330’s will be used as parts from MAN, one 330 will be operational in DUB to due the spare parts market availability especially engines, worth more than the plane my guess it’s EIK with the age of the aircraft, EIK with plagued history of tech issues

    Post edited by dean333 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭StakeholderValue


    Would be quite something if this is true given EI management reason for closing the MAN base was that the 330’s would be more profitable in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dean333


    yep exactly, be interesting to see what happens truly, it’s all gonna unravel it’s self over next few months, be a mess, planes, routes, crew training some of the 330 crew will be going back to the 320

    cost saving of having parts there and not having to buy externally



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Yep,

    Got notified earlier about my trip being canx - Of course, when i applied for the refund, it was swiftly declined due to the "fare you purchased"

    Following our earlier message, we’re writing to confirm that Aer Lingus’ Manchester transatlantic operations will fully cease as of and from 31st March 2026. Manchester-New York operations will cease from 23rd February 2026 and Aer Lingus plans to operate a service from Dublin to Barbados (subject to receipt of necessary approvals) during the months of April and May to reaccommodate affected customers. As a result, we are cancelling your upcoming flight from Manchester to Barbados. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Aer Lingus continue to make a pigs ear of this situation. It's all very amateur, something I'd expect from a dodgy start up, not a well established carrier in one of the worlds leading airline groups.

    As for using one of them for spare parts, that would be extraordinary. As a fully operational spare for peak summer, fair enough, especially if - GEY isn't returning, but to cannibalise one for parts would be a final slap in the face for Manchester and disappointing for Dublin too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭user060916


    I'd imagine it's a lot more profitable to have a aircraft for parts keeping other aircraft flying then having to cancel flights last minute, pay for charters, pay eu261/uk261.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dean333


    GEY is coming back for YZZ S26 @kevinandrew



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    The flight crew trained on the A330 in Manchester will still be trained for the A330 in Dublin.

    Training any cabin crew for the A320.is a matter of a week. If any MAN crew take them up on the transfer offer, easy for EI to just leave them as A330 only.

    Parting out a serviceable aircraft just before the Summer season is ludicrous. At worse they will be need as "a spare" A330. The recent "technical issues" were not uncommon for this time of year and the lowered resilience of the wide body fleet while A330 are in C Checks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dean333


    seniority among such as like of pilots in that company mean I’ve heard a good bunch won’t remain on the 330 in Dublin, many captain in man on 330 don’t hold the seniority to remain in position in DUB base so either be back on 320 or right seat 330



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,012 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They have mentioned they would and also options to transfer elsewhere within IAG. BA are hiring now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    CC aren’t on the seniority list in Dublin so transferring is basically starting again and unless they arrive with an EU issued license they’ll have to start training as if they’ve never flown before, including obtaining an IAA issued type rating, so I’d be shocked if any MAN crew transferred with the exception of maybe the few ex Dublin still there.

    Pilots are on the list but that comes with issues too. Accounting for the two frames coming over the 330 is pretty much fully subscribed so most pilots would have to move to the 320. But then there’s issues for example of MAN crew maybe holding higher seniority to a DUB pilot whose just moved to the 330, can EI send them back and keep the MAN crew on the 330*?!? It can get messy quickly.

    *When you move to the 330 the agreement is your frozen for 3 years, can EI break that without penalty?



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    100%, there are issues around seniority.

    Personally I know of 3 MAN captains who were on the A330 in 2018. Very small sample obviously. (One of those was suspended a while back!)

    But yes, the F/Os will probably be shuffled around. I was a bit "1 size fits all" earlier. I dont know how many were direct entry and my prefer to try their chances with VS or BA. (If they are even hiring...)

    The CC are a different matter. As above, transferring probably isn't an attractive option for many of them. Im told that majority were ex-Thomas Cook, assumed to be older more settled people. MAN-DUB isn't a bad commute.

    Seniority isn't as much of an issue among EI cabin crew. A330 only crew straight out of training has been done before.

    Regarding CAA/EASA licensing; the MAN crew are proficient with existing EI SOPs. I would posit that its a very short course(maybe just an exam resit?) to get them access to an EASA/IAA license.



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