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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    What's the total it declined by? I read 6%, was it more?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Apparently the Minneapolis PD took a case to federal court yesterday seeking to have the DHS removed from being in charge of the investigation into Alex's shooting and the judge has said she will take time to examine the request and decide on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,711 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I see he's a 'VA Nurse' on FoxNews now and no longer a 'domestic terrorist'

    So much spin it would make you vomit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    In monetary terms $12.5 Billion. Roughly two thirds of the amount it cost to put that murderous scum in ICE on the streets to terrorise those that do not politically agree with Trump and his minions.

    By any chance do you think those two figures might be connection ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,559 ✭✭✭✭fullstop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,559 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Sweet suffering fúck will you stop prattling on about the ‘third world’ comment. You’ve mentioned it in about 15 posts. Nobody cares



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It would be nice for Fox News to release the name of their source seeing as they are the quasi-official Admin news agency for the word of truth from the Trump Admin and they are merely confirming what the rest of the U.S already observed from the video evidence films the bystanders provided to the U.S public before anyone could knobble - edit - the footage. It reads like the Admin are prepared to throw at least one of their agents under the bus in Minneapolis city.

    One important fact is that the supposed accidental discharge only possibly explains away the first shot heard and recorded on the cameras, and not the larger two bursts of gunfire also recorded as several agents fired volleys of shots into Alex as he lay on the ground. Those separate volleys came from at least two other agents standing looking at Alex as he was already in an incapacitated state from several doses of a chemical agent sprayed on him by their colleague.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    What percentage of overall tourism revenue is that or GDP? 12BN sounds big on it's own but with context is it really?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Harping back to what was headline news a few days ago, a glitch was reported to have come up in the mentioned move of two Airborne Battalions to Minneapolis by the Trump DOD. The force was taking part in exercises in Alaska jointly with Canadian involvement.

    The glitch is that the second in command of the exercise force, incl the U.S component, is a Canadian general and he would have to have been replaced by a U.S officer of equal rank if the Trump Govt decided to activate and move the 2 battalions to Minneapolis to assist the DHS operations there. However, as we know, the battalions stayed put away from Minneapolis.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    So DHS is going to investigate if a branch of DHS, ICE, killed Alex Pretti based on an "apparent" accidental gun discharge.

    My understanding of apparent is clearly visible or understood, obvious. Unless I somehow missed it, where in any of the many recording of this murder is it apparent that there was an accidental gun discharge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    In context $12.5 billion is the total allocated by Congress to the Federal Aviation Administration to modernize it`s air traffic control.

    Now how about you answering the question you were asked!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭kyote00


    accidentally shot him 10 times. Shameful cowards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    It will take a lot more than a rebrand.

    Polishing a turd, no matter how hard, will never turn it into gold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I see CNN are also reporting he has had his access to his social media accounts cut off, effective immediately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,979 ✭✭✭✭briany


    ICE are pulling every illegal immigrant they can find out of their homes and sending them off to god knows where with little to no due process. On top of that, they're intimidating and accosting non-white people they come across and shooting 'libs' in the face.

    As far as MAGA are concerned, ICE are probably doing trojan work.

    Consequently, rather than a rebrand, Trump will pay some lip service to moderation before they do something even worse...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So it's one small aspect of a gigantic budget. Let's just keep things in perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    If I was one of that drove of visitors you believed visited the U.S. last year, I would not look at money spent on modernizsing their aircraft control a "small aspect" and I doubt anybody else taking an internal U.S. flight would either.

    Keeping things in perspective would be you answering what you were asked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,549 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's not "spin", it's lies.

    You don't put 10 rounds into someone's back in an "accidental discharge".

    You do that because you mean to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,549 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I also suspect at this point that ICE is going to have to undertake a “rebranding” in the future. No matter what internal reforms or reorganizations happen, there is sufficient lack of trust that the name is tainted forevermore.

    This isn't some advertising campaign that's gone wrong FFS.

    This organisation is responsible for two cold blooded murders in the space of a week because the sitting government has given them carte blanche to do so.

    "Rebranding" is the very least that needs to happen. In a normal functioning society both murderers would be in custody awaiting trial, right now*, and the whole organisation would be under deep scrutiny and investigation. Likewise those in government who've facilitated this whole violent push would be under serious pressure to resign.

    *especially in the case of someone firing 10 shots into someone's back while they were on the ground.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    12BN sounds big until you realise it's a multi multi trillion economy. Not to mention the other 94% of tourism revenue they still bring in.

    This year in part thanks to the world cup visitor numbers are expected to reach as high as 85m. That's a truly staggering figure for what remains one of the hottest destinations on earth. That's now under an unpopular president Trump. Imagine the numbers when a more likable president gets in. In this regard there's a bright future ahead for America.

    There could be one for us as well if we returned many of our hotels to their original purpose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


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    Miller to go too? Couldn’t be fast enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,057 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    It's pretty obvious Trump is sending Homan in because he hasn't got his hands covered in 💩 in all this controversy, yet at least.

    Speaking of 💩, Gregory Bovino, it's no surprise he's being removed, as he's toxic and hasn't an ounce of credibility. He sidesteps questions and outright blatantly lies(which he's got form for), when people can quite clearly see the truth for themselves.

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    https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/minneapolis-shooting-ice-protests-01-26-26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    Hopefully they throw him off that base he is hiding in and he has to face actual agitators!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,906 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    He’s also a tall white man in his 30’s who is shown on media in photos featuring professional accomplishment and hiking; not a blue haired bisexual woman who could be discussed in terms of previous divorce and hippy dippy poetry nonsense.

    The overwhelming revulsion to this killing and consequent political retreat is because this victim clearly fits their definition of a “hero”. I am certain Stephen Miller ordered a couple hundred combined hours of labour from his staffers trying to dig into Alex Pretti’s life, background and social media. They are changing their tune because he’s clean.

    Renee Good was a bisexual artist with a gobby partner who was very easily “othered”. You can’t “other” a professional white man in his 30’s with a background in sport.

    It is all extremely distasteful and I take no comfort from this climbdown, at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    What agitators? Someone made a good point up thread that in the past there would have been riots, there's barely a whisper now. People with whistles and iPhones while a gang of Black and Tans kidnaps children and shoots a nurse in the back 10+ times. Subdued with pizza by the National Guard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭ronjo


    Sorry I dont have a link to it. The one I saw was slowed down but perhaps it wasnt being discharged based on what everyone is saying here so apologies for mis information. I certainly havent spent much time looking at all angles as the entire thing sickens me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,830 ✭✭✭plodder


    After that ridiculous "sermon" the other day, Bovino's days were numbered. Not surprised he's gone.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    Bovine is a scumbag, but no worse than Noem, or Miller or the rest of them including Fox news who smeared Pretti and Goode. I hope this fall guy isn't accepted as some sort of resolution.

    Even if ICE leave there must be accountability for the two murders committed by ICE that were clearly filmed.

    Not that it will happen of course, I'm not that naive. Even the comments by some here are giving tacit support to ICE, Poem etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Hopefully the little Steven Lockjaw wannabe gets dogs abuse wherever he goes for the rest of his life



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