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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    They have the network for that. They blocked anti-ICE chants on the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭jacool


    After Trump announced on Truth Social that he would send Tom Homan to Minnesota, Kristi Noem wrote on X: "This is good news for peace, security, and accountability in Minneapolis."

    Hmmm…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Trump will just do the same, delay, delay any court case and then kick it upstairs to SC to check on his immunity, could take a couple of years, Jean Carroll still waiting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭Economics101


    See my post above (#47019). It was in to-day's London Telegraph.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭doyle55


    The leading GOP candidate for Governor of Minnesota just dropped out in protest of ICE and national Republicans.

    Republican Chris Madel made a stunning exit from the Minnesota governor’s race on Jan. 26, saying he cannot support the national GOP’s “stated retribution on the citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so.”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    His current bunch have learned from the mistakes of their predecessors. Former FBI Director James Comey, or even General Flynn did not toe the company line exactly to the letter. Kirsty Noom knows this which is why anytime ICE kill someone, she's straight in front of a microphone spouting the company line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    If Michael Martin goes to Washington for St.Patricks Day it will cost FF one % point in the polls.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,194 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,195 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    I think that's exactly it, the escalation.

    In my opinion ICE are being encouraged to these extremes so eventually there will be an armed response by some citizens and Trump can officially call in to force the Insurrection Act.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    ah, so no credible reporting of it then.

    (Not a dig at you BTW, just the Torygraph is about as reliable as the Fortean Times for facts)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,979 ✭✭✭✭briany


    She'll do as told or enjoy a nice silent disco.

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    Probably just talking a bit of guff to please the domestic audience.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    What I find fascinating is they have a Ukraine War podcast and while I haven't listened to it recently, it was a good source of information of the goings on. I was very surprised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I think there was a suggestion somewhere else on the internet [NOT HERE ON BOARDS.IE] or on another medium altogether that when Alex's pistol was seized from him by the Fed agent, the agent may have accidentally discharged a round from it as he was not familiar with the pistol. It was made within 24 hours of the shooting and may have no substance at all, just something mentioned as a suggestion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭randd1


    My God. Is that a Republican showing principles?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Would you like to see more leaders kidnapped around the world? Have you a list in mind?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭Patser


    Alex Pretti's gun is a complete red herring, as his lack of id, meant to somehow tar him in the aftermath of his death.

    It wasn't the catalyst to the incident, he wasn't confronted or asked about it or did he touch it. No-one was aware he had a gun.

    Instead he stepped in front of an agent to help pick up a Lady, he had slipped on ice after the agent had pushed her.

    For that he got a whole can of pepper spray to the face, a 5 people on his back and another smacking him in the face within 5 seconds of him reaching for the lady.

    His gun becoming visible then in his belt, may have acted as a catalyst to his death. But without that shooting, globally few would have been aware of the attack he'd been subject to before hand.

    His tragic death has really shone a spotlight on what ICE are like in the ground. Pushing anyone they don't like around, pouncing and beating anyone they want, the shooting was to a whole new level but everything else beforehand was unacceptable as well.

    And afterwards he's smeared as a domestic terrorist, out to assassinate Federal agents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Maybe, just maybe, dangerous and trigger happy people shouldn't be allowed on the streets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,418 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Could this be the moment that shakes the Americans to act now? If they wait and watch and let this happen they will folow a path laid out in history . They will regret not acting right now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭rogber


    The two things are not mutually exclusive. ICE is the main problem here, yes. But if a friend told me he was going out to protest against them and was bringing a gun I know I would tell him: this isn't worth risking your life over, keep a safe distance, and if you really want to go for god's sake don't bring any kind of weapon. It's just basic consideration of personal safety



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,979 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I'd like to think that my stance on the Trump administration is well known enough on here that it could be assumed I wasn't saying that in a tone that actually advocates the actions in question….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,619 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    I would not normally take such an aggressive approach, but having watched how this situation has developed with the full approval of Trump & Co., I am more and more inclined to think that that's exactly what's needed now.

    After this shooting, during the protest that followed, I watched a line of these "highly trained" agents marching forwards through a cloud of tear-gas that they themselves had created and thought to myself: They are sooooo feckin stupid. One guy with a machine gun could cut the whole lot of them down, and they'd have no idea what was happening. I reckon if any paramilitary group decided to take them on, the majority would be running home to their mammies before Trump or Noem could get a tweet out.

    When all is said and done, these are masked thugs wearing civilian clothes, roaming the streets with guns and live ammunition, and no identification. They are fair game for anyone who's ever signed up to the NRA's slogan "it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun".

    I'd be more inclined to use grenades or drones myself, but that's going off on a tangent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    whilst I take your point this is the country with the gun fetish, the thing about 2a is that it was always about making sure government don’t overstep the mark. Now they are overstepping the mark they cant revert to don’t bring guns.
    regardless he was shot in the back while lying on the ground 10 times. That’s an execution. They’ll defend ICE and still defend 2a because its just a fetish nothing to do with worries about rights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭ronjo


    I saw the video. Perhaps it was doctored but it absolutely looked like it went off in his hands pointing at the ground just before they started shooting.

    I havent see the Torygraph article.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Personally, I think the gun laws in the US are absolutely indefensible, and in an ideal world nobody would be walking around with guns at all - and yes, that extends to regular law enforcement too.

    But, in the current context and reality, not only was what Pretti doing entirely legal - the very thing Republican lawmakers would usually be defending if he was a right-wing protester - but protesting against violent state tyranny is actually one of the few understandable situations where being armed seems like a reasonable precaution. I'd suggest those are the exact circumstances envisioned when the Second Amendment was drafted, as foreign as that is to our Irish sensibilities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,658 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also I'm still not clear on if he was even protesting in this case. He could as easily have come across the incident.

    I am noticing that the posters who downplayed the first incident have gone entirely silent this time round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,979 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If a paramilitary outfit starts shooting at ICE, it just gives Trump the excuse to throw off the last remaining shackles of restraint.

    If you take the example of the IRA vs the British army just as a comparison - the IRA gave the British army a hard time of it, but the British could never go scorched earth on Northern Ireland. The mutual public and media outcry in Ireland and Britain would have been far too great. The British at this time, for whatever else you want to say about their conduct in this time period, had at least some sense of objective right and wrong.

    The Trump administration in the US is a totally different beast. They'd never have a decades long inquest into the shooting of Pretti. As it is, they're essentially telling people to ignore direct video evidence of what happened. And there would be little to no great outcry in the MAGA heartlands over the US military being piled into so-called 'liberal' cities. Quite the opposite - block parties being organised and big projectors being set up so they could all watch and celebrate the carnage together, live on Fox News with Jesse Watters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Apparently its official that Tom Homan is going to Minnesota. Given that its Trump issuing the statement, I expect there's a chance that he'll call Homan there and find some TACO excuse to pull him back to DC and blame Walz for the breakdown in talks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,027 ✭✭✭happyoutscan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I've watched multiple angles of the video and I've not seen one where Pretti's gun appears to have been discharged.
    Indeed the only example of trigger discipline I saw amongst any of the officers who had weapons drawn in the videos I watched?
    Was the guy who removed Pretti's gun and carried it off the scene.

    Do you have a link to any video you watched where it appears the gun was discharged?
    I'd like to see what I might have missed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    USD at €0.84 now. Lowest since 2021. Not as low as 2014 when it was €0.76 though.

    Screenshot 2026-01-26 180911.png


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