Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Law & Order in one perfect tweet.

So your a black sheep even to your own family.

This song is still as relevant as ever.

There is that ultimately higher question though of what one is willing to risk for what they believe to be the right thing to do. It's where law enforcement crosses the line between policing and intimidation where you tend to get problems. We've had it here, where armed British state forces militarised the landscape in the North (and the rest of Ireland, further back in history) in ways that were heavy-handed and inviting of community resistance. I've said it before but ICE as a body seems somewhat reminiscent of the old Ulster Defence Regiment in the North — seemingly little more than an armed militia of people with strong biases leaning towards certain political views that make them unsuited as a law enforcement body in places where their biases taint their behaviour towards the local population.

And of course, that seems to be the whole point of ICE in the first place: a somewhat performative imposition of this biased armed group on local populations which is designed to be good viewing for those in Republican heartlands and also designed to create a narrative of lawless out of control Democrat states / cities. And from what we can see, they are (on the kindest interpretation) not adequately trained to deal with the charged situations they are being sent to create — not to mention that their biases are getting the better of the professional standards they are ideally supposed to maintain. And the same seems to apply to Border Patrol too, whereby if the shooting itself didn't tell you enough, the utterly contemptible lies being told by Bovino about the event certainly do.

People are responsible for their safety in their interactions with law enforcement, but law enforcement must abide by the general principle that doing crazy things that invite resistance will ultimately lead to resistance — and its negligent at best to dream otherwise. And I'm not aiming that at you, I mean in general.

Comply with ICE very well then, they were inserted to cause trouble so if they dont engage protesters on street they will go in to public or private buildings and find obstructers there are no operations objectives, communication with state agencies or numbers on illegal detained but there are 2 US citizens dead

A man was disarmed possible chemically disabled and after shot 10 times is a citizen and a health worker.

Any country ex NK Russia China maybe, Iran

Would be a nation wide shut down i wonder if they go for a mixrace would it spark something bigger and they are been badly careful.

If it keeps going this way, what would Minneapolis residents be left to do? Peaceful arbitration isn't going to work if the Trump administration says this people were a danger to ICE lives when there is very clear video evidence to the contrary. Doubly not if the Trump admin is insisting on his loyal FBI to handle the cases and not giving local law enforcement. The corruption couldn't be more obvious.

Still, it seems like an escalation is what Trump and co. want, so there's that.

One way is to clear Minnesota of the actual lawbreakers, the combined group of federal agents from different agencies: I.C.E., Border Patrol, Bureaus of Prisons operating under the D.H.S supposedly to find and deport illegals aliens so that the city can return to what passes for normality from Trump actually using the city as a battleground to subdue the democrats running it and the state.

I am wondering who is watching out for illegal aliens entering the U.S with I.C.E agents absent from duty at the ports of entry into the U.S and the Border agents absent from the U.S borders.

CNN just said that Alex Pretti's gun had already been taken away by the Feds before he was shot.

Reports that Noem wants DHS to do the investigation instead of the FBI.

New Emerson poll rating the Cabinet members. Noem is the least popular by 44-41. Rubio is most popular.

Also Fed Chairman Jerome Powell is popular 45-27.

RFK has net approval.

It's strange seeing all these Trump supporters coming out saying that people shouldn't get in the way of police or federal officers and that simply protesting is asking for trouble.

Remind me what their POV was after Jan 6th? What was it that Trump said about Babitt?

Also, it's alarming how easy they lie. Patel was on Fox saying that Alex had a gun and had threatened law enforcement. When asked if the gun had been examined, he stated he couldn't comment as that would be to pre-judge any investigation

There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

This is what they want.

That's incredibly difficult to stomach

According to RTE radio news, Trump has apparently decided to send Tom Homan [AKA the border czar]to Minnesota. The purpose will be made official at some time in the [hopefully] near future, maybe even a meeting with the Governor and the Mayor.

The truth often is.

The bit about the officers counting bullet holes is very difficult to stomach.

Alex Pretti was complying. He was face down on the ground, disarmed and subdued. He wasn't resisting.

He still got 10 bullets fired into his back.