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Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 25/26 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Only stat that matters will be top 5. That's the battle he's in right now

    Hopefully Arsenal and Palace can get results today, preferably wins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    That might work today, but, we can't rely on other teams doing us favours for the rest of the season. Half the league is within a few points, unless we start winning again its only a matter of time before 3 or 4 teams overtake us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭SM01


    I would imagine Slot will see out the season, and barring any miraculous improvement, would be sacked then.

    The turmoil, uncertainty and financial implications involved in sacking him now would potentially be chaotic. At this stage i think it makes sense to let him see out the season and try claim 4th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    if he gets sacked or not depends on who the targeted replacement is.

    Post edited by 893bet on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Tommysocks11


    Yes it would be chaotic to sack him but I think it needs to be done, I cant see us getting champions league qualification at this rate, our ppg is like 1.5 over last 20 games which is very poor, we need to cut the bulls**t and just fire him



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭riddles


    the last ten games form table which up to yesterday has seen us collect 15 points and a lot of that was an unbeaten run. That against a lot of teams we’d be expected to beat. On that trajectory we won’t get 5th there’s no cavalry of players to come back. Slot alluded to fatigue yesterday. And losing Robbo’s character in the group I would see that as a further dent in the morale.

    When we get knocked out of the CL and FA cup which is inevitable I can see a massive drop off. Slots not walking away from his pay off and the club are holding on to prevent a payoff at least till the summer but at this point it’s looking like an expensive dice role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Seeing out the season has potential long term negative consequences. If there's negative feeling in the squad, it could grow while Slot remains. An interim coach gives the feeling that there's a brighter future ahead.

    If the negative feeling grows, then is 5th place in jeopardy? That would be an unmitigated disaster.

    I'd love to see Slot turn it around but I'm worried im not seeing that yet.

    1. They're still shipping goals. All sorts of goals.

    2. They're not turning any sort of control into enough goals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Libertine07


    I was of a mind to give him until the end of the season, but that's changed now. He clearly isn't capable of turning this around and if we don't do something we're genuinely in danger of our worst placing since the PL came into being. We're not far off relegation form right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    I think he'll see the season out. I think the club will give him as much time as possible because of what he achieved last season. I also think Alonso won't want to jump in mid-season and probably needs the respite after Madrid.

    I wouldn't discount the possibility of Liverpool going deep into the Champions League if the draw is kind. We've seen this before.

    Alonso is the obvious replacement and the club should have something in place with him should Slot depart in the summer.

    I don't think Alonso is going to come in and fix things straight away either. There is still a lot of work to be done with this squad. Salah must depart, he's a massive issue. The club needs better defensive players too to give people like Wirtz, Ekitike and Isak a platform to perform.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,536 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Jumping in mid season gives him time to get his play style and tactics across which might be helpful as with the World Cup this summer there'll be less time to work on all that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,332 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    He'll see the season out unless Alonso insists he wants it now.

    I honestly think that's where we're at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Yes but I don't think the club will fire Slot right now. Objectively, Liverpool remain in the top 4 in both the league and Champions League.

    I think Alonso has been badly damaged by his Madrid experience, he will want to take a step away for a while in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭strawdog


    I'm fine with this as long as they get can get some sort of pre agreement with Alonso. As someone else said, I don't want to become one of those annual sacking clubs like Chelsea or Spurs, but I think the circumstances make taking action reasonable if it needed to be done to get Alonso. If we miss out on CL spot and get the wrong manager next, we're likely on a ticket back to the bad old days.

    Much as some including myself still hoped, I don't think anyone really feels any more Slot can turn it around. Alonso may not work out to be the savior, but he's the best and most viable option out there in a barren market, and similar to Klopp when he came in, feels like a fit for a team that's gone flat and aimless. For me, if it made the difference in getting him, not sacking now would be the more reckless option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,204 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Klopp was not sacked at Dortmund, he said in April of 2015 he will be stepping down. I agree with you that being sacked should not rule you out as a good manager, much of being successful is being in the right place at the right time, but using Klopp as an example of a great manager when they were sacked before falls apart in that he has never been sacked as a manager and always left his clubs on his own terms.

    You should have used Bill Belichick being sacked as coach of the Browns and becoming one of the most successful in the NFL as an example, although that is problematic as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,221 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Whoever the new coach is, I'd be bringing them in as soon as they're ready to join. If that's this summer then fine, if it's this week then fine.

    If the club are accepting that Slot is not the future then getting the new man in as early as possible is best imo, it'd be better to go into next season with a coach who's already been here a few months instead of one who only had a World Cup summer to work with the squad.

    Fears of "becoming a sacking club like Chelsea or United" are over exaggerated imo, if we fire Slot it'll be our first sacking in over a decade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Libertine07


    Yeah, we have to get off our high horse when it comes to sacking a manager, it's part and parcel of football and sometimes it's necessary unfortunately. The fact that Slot kept his job after 9 losses in 12 shows how patient Liverpool is, at Chelsea he would have been gone months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    The only thing is there is no inclination at all the club have decided Slot is not the guy. If this was the case we'd be hearing something about it from the usual journalists in the know.

    Alonso is the obvious fit but I'd be tempering my excitement a little. One special season at Leverkusen aside, he's done very little. He was badly exposed in a lot of the big games he played also. Europa League Final and Madrid derby spring to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,852 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    If the results were this bad and you could see what we were trying to do on the pitch then that would be one thing. If we were sure we were just a player or two from implementing something but it's not there.

    Similarly, the players attitudes and mentalities recently have fallen off a cliff. Fsir enough, we we accepted this manager wouldn't maybe be the same motivational force as Klopp but he's ticking neither box at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Libertine07


    You don't achieve what he did at Leverkusen by chance.

    The Adam Clery video linked on the last page is really worth a watch.

    I also don't think the club would be briefing anything if they've changed their mind on Slot, why would they. It'll be radio silence until there's something to report.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭joinme


    I don't really get what is nonsense about my point. We needed a result, and our best striker is fit but left on the bench. I dont agree we should be saving him in case he gets injured again. We needed him yesterday. I'm calling out a bad call from Slot, on top of other bad calls he has made this season. It's an opinion, like many on here. You may not agree but it's valid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    He had an extraordinary season at Leverkusen in 23/24, but I do remember them scoring a lot of very late goals to keep that unbeaten record going. They had run out of gas probably by the time they reached the Europa League final and lost 3-0 to Atalanta.

    The season after they scored 69 points in the league, a drop off of 21 points from the previous season. They had largely the same squad. They also lost 4-0 to Slots Liverpool in November and were made look very ordinary.

    This is not me saying Alonso isn't capable of doing a really good job if he got the position but we have to be realistic and say he still has plenty to prove.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    The fact that we're contemplating 5th place as being OK confirms how far from acceptable our performances are.

    5th in a 20 team league realistically is ****. I know there is a get out of free card a little woth the Champions league grift, but really 5th is mediocrity



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,221 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Alonso's record isn't flawless but it's pretty damn good, there won't be many attainable managers with better.

    We have 7 losses in the league this season. Alonso has 7 league losses since March of 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    I think Alonso would give the club a big lift. There's still a lot to play for this season, a hell of a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭jones


    It's bizarre we're still in 4th (for another few hours anyway). Our league position has been massively hiding how badly we've been playing, look at the stats, this unbeaten run is one of the worst unbeaten runs I've ever seen - against mainly teams we should be beating but we claimed it as a victory because what came before was horrendous.

    We've remained 4th through dumb luck rather than any initiative of our own. We're a fragile, disjointed mess of a team. Anything positive that's happened this season is down to moments of individual brilliance from players rather than any system or team spirit.

    Slot is done and the only way he makes the end of the season is if Alonso or whoever doesn't want to take over at this late stage. Slot has shown no capacity to stop this slide he looks like a man without a clue who's definitely not getting the best out of the players we've got. His man management, his tactics and refusal to stop talking about how the team can't play against low blocks it's crazy how bad this season has gone.

    Case in point to not put the ball out or foul someone to get us back to 11 players on the pitch before the second goal was conceded yesterday is criminal and shows how shellshocked this team is in game and note no one on the management team seemed to be screaming any instructions either.

    Richard Hughes etc also do not look great with our squad particularly CB. Theres something rotten at the core of anfield and me thinks change is coming sooner rather than later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,221 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Yeah 4th place is nice but we're closer to 13th than 3rd. The writing's on the wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Yeah big time.

    Every year that we've been in a race for 4th in the past was a pretty crappy, unenjoyable year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,457 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Elliot, Jota, Nunez, Diaz, Quansah, Kelleher, Trent and Tsimikas all gone from the squad. New players need time too.

    He won the league last season, "Klopp's team or not".

    Managers don't get time nowadays.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    Rio came on at 2-1 and won the free kick that lead to the goal?



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