Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Not victim blaming , just common sense.

Your part of the problem, just encourage people to do something completely ill advised and then be surprised when it turns out badly, while you sit at home pontificating and pretending to care.

If the 2 people had stayed at home and not put themselves into completely unnecessary danger by interacting with a bunch of thugs they'd be alive today.

Nah, not victim blaming , just common sense,.

It's been obvious for a while ICE are a bunch of badly trained thugs so why the hell would people be so foolish as to interact with them in any way, sorry but it was completely ill advised behavior.

I feel the same way about people who take completely unnecessary risks in all walks of life, like those who climb K2 or Mount Everest.

Pathetic how it always comes down to 'Just comply'.

The guy was killed when he was trying to help 2 women who were being maced, he didn't do anything wrong.

Should people maybe just constantly stay home because ICE might be around ? Perhaps they should only be allowed out between certain hours ?

Seriously, you're embarrassing yourself.

The problem is ICE aren't doing their jobs. If they were, they wouldn't need to be going around like stormtroopers. There is no need for them to be tooled up like an invading army to do their job. There should be no need to be armed to do their job.

Their job is to arrest identified illegal aliens for whom they have an arrest warrant. This doesn't require an army. If there is reason to suspect force may be required to effect an arrest, it could be done with the assistance of local law enforcement. That is how it is done in civilised countries.

That is if that is their job. Or is it their job to act as a private paramilitary force and carry on from where the January 6th rioters left off ?

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This weekend Trump's Admin is letting it be known that they are deporting several hundred Iranians from the U.S back to their country. They have nor said why they are doing, ie: on national security grounds or if it is because the deportees are Iranian with naturalization papers given to them over the years. I cannot see the deportees being given a heroes welcome back in Iran.

'why exercise your legal rights to something when there's a chance the Gestapo will kill you?'

Have you no concept of standing up for your rights? That's the exact time you should be exercising these rights.

Not everyone is a coward.

Because it's the right thing to do. If everyone took this approach, nothing would change and governments would continue to erode people's rights.

Your not victim blaming, yet it is the fault of two people murdered by this scum in the last two week that they "interacted" with them. Today`s victim didn`t "interact" with them. He was a nurse and went to the aid of a women . Take a look at yourself and cop yourself on.

kind of hard to 'stay away' from ICE when they're literally kicking people's doors in.

Are you the type to just close your blinds and lock your door when your friends and neighbours are having their doors kicked in and being abducted by masked men?

At what point do you feel the need to act?

In a democracy a protest, is a given right. The moment you stop or try and stop protests, the democracy I mentioned is slowly slipping away.

The problem with the Trump DHS operation in Minneapolis and other cities is that the agents are from a multitude of agencies. One of the agents shown on TV today in Minneapolis was wearing a Bureau of Prisons body vest, not even an I.C.E agent.

Why did he have a weapon on him.

Irrespective of him drawing it or not that is incredibly foolish to bring any kid of weapon into a heightened tense situation like that.

Again should he have been killed? No

Did he take an unnecessary risk ? Yes.

Why is anyone going anywhere near where ICE are, just stay the hell away from them.

Questioning peoples choices is not victim blaming, it isn't victim blaming if somebody gets robbed and the police tell you that you should've kept your back door locked.

I think Trump is scum and if he was dead tomorrow it would be great.

Again questioning foolish unnecessary choices is not victim blaming.

It isn't victim blaming when a police officer after a person has been robbed tells them they shouldn't have left their back door unlocked.