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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭threeball


    We've had a shìt run since 2001. Time for a break. From the war on terror, to the crash, to Isis, to brexit, to Trumps first term, to Covid and now to this. Any poor fcuker under 30 hasn't been cut a break. And 90% of the hassle surrounded America and their bullshìt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Yeah, my question is how many of them are genuinely 'Independent', as opposed to self-described. The swings between the Dems and GOP over the last 20 years have been minimal, at most 5-7%. Even McCain got over 45% of the vote, and in the two presidential elections they lost, 2016 and 2024, the Dems got over 48% (same in 2000 and 2004, incidentally).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭midlander12


    This needs to keep happening. Bring it home to them that they're pariahs, in the same league as Putin and the Iranian mullahs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    And if you remember Brexit the Tory administration negotiated in bad faith. Each time they got a concession they pocketed it and went straight back for more. The EU will have learned from negotiations that went on then and hopefully won't be hoodwinked by Trump threatening tariffs after an agreement had recently been reached.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I tuned in briefly to his "speech" and he was rambling on about Iceland?

    Turns out he got them mixed up. Fine.

    I wonder will Iceland think about (re) applying for EU membership now though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,244 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Someone needs to grow a pair and tell him to f*** off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Eh, the U.S. citizens had two bites a the cherry there and fooking blew it!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,611 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It's clear he doesn't actually like Mr.s Macron and Starmer and Ms von der Leyen. That's a very cold and aggressive (and rude) way to address fellow world leaders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭CFlat


    Trump just announced he's not going ahead with tariffs on those European countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    It’s astonishing that such a powerful and influential, and supposed to be good and inspiring title and position could possess so many poor and bad and awful traits; vindictive, petty, aggressive, rude, narcissistic, patronising, insulting, shameless, greedy, spiteful, uncaring, shallow…. Have I missed any?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    The US can not afford to isolate itself at all. That is insane to think.

    The EU doesn't have the same issue, they are negotiating trade deals with other markets, and have deals in place.

    America is also on the line for the treasury bonds, which are owned by Japan and other countries. Sell them off, and the US would grind to a halt in hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,611 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, met with Mark Rutte apparently and Rutte talked him down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,209 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Strong words from John Bolton (former National Security Advisor under Trump - lasted less than 2 years. Trump fired him for holding him back)

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    A former US national security advisor in Donald Trump's first term as president has said he is "glad" that Mr Trump ruled out, in his Davos speech, ordering military action for the United States to seize Greenland.

    John Bolton said US President Trump "never should have threatened force in the first place".

    He said that Mr Trump's threats have "done real damage to the trans-Atlantic alliance".

    "And it's one of the reasons I don't think Trump is fit to be president, because you shouldn't deal with allies that way,"

    "But I think he wanted to shock people, which he did," he said.

    "Now everybody's going to be relieved, and he thinks it's going to be easier to buy Greenland.

    "That's not the way to deal with allies either, but I think at least we've climbed back from the brink and that alone is a positive step," Mr Bolton added.

    He said there is a way to solve the row over Greenland that does not involve transferring its sovereignty, based on the 1951 bilateral US-Denmark treaty called the 'Defence of Greenland Treaty'.

    Mr Bolton said this treaty allows the United States to do "pretty much what we need to do for US security and... the security of the entire NATO alliance".

    He added: "I'd be happy if the 57,000 people of Greenland voted to become part of the United States, a commomwealth like Puerto Rico.

    "But whatever chance there was for that vote to happen pretty much disappeared with the way Trump has behaved."

    Live: 'We want a piece of ice for world protection' - Trump

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,914 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Trump has actually, blown it. That speech/rambling discourse, contrasting with Carney and others, means all those now fully understand that they will no longer rely on the USA, in any way. He has accelerated the demise of his own country. This Davos marks a turning point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭Patser


    It's a huge, huge backdown he's trying to portray as a win.

    For talks that may allow Golden Dome be built on Greenland, suddenly the I must have Greenland and Tariff all my opponents is gone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Living in Canada for 12 years now.

    I can only say what I see and experience here, but this type of rhetoric doesn't sit well with Canadians, and as friendly as they are, they are equally petty. It is why so many Irish people move here. Hold a grudge and make them pay for it in good company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    TACO strikes again…AGAIN!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,611 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It illustrates how wildly erratic and all over the shop he is. None of this is the sign of a strong and competent leader - the opposite in fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭Patser


    The Greenland issue is now parked, it'll be bogged down in long talks for possibly years, and seems to centre around missile defence - which given that the US is welcome to have bases on Greenland, was never really an issue. There's no mention in that post of US ownership of Greenland.

    Meanwhile all tariffs are gone, so we've had a week or the US burning so many bridges for nothing. Trump probably thinking I got my point across and everything will settle now, while Europe really, really needs to heed this wake up call. Become more self confident, build closer relationships with Canada - they need friends and ao so we.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,209 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    More tariffs that never happened. I said I expected a climbdown this week but that is beyond a climbdown given his rhetoric from this morning. Credibility in tatters. It's like dealing with multiple personalities. I wonder will any of his friends/family make money on the markets knowing he was about to concede.

    Unfortunately for the US, the damage is already done. Trust is gone.

    Next...

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Basically he creates a massive sh1t show which gets resolved in a manner that could have happened if he behaved like a normal person; win for Trump, art of the deal etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Where are the rest of the Epstein files?

    What nonsense will this fùcking clown come up with tomorrow?....

    Constant dead cat drivel from the orange cùnt...

    Playing the worlds media like a fiddle....

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,955 ✭✭✭Patser


    It's truly incredible. In 1 week he's

    Absolutely enraged Denmark, one of the most peaceful countries going

    Insulted Norway over the noble peace prize, who have massive amounts of American debt.

    At random times tried to undermine Macron, Starmer, Von der Leyon.

    Told Canada they owe their existence to him.

    Told Italy that they have a great relationship with the US going back to Roman times!!!!

    Stood up in Switzerland and said they'd all be speaking German except for America, German being the most common language in Switzerland. Also said some would have been speaking Japanese, but tbf that's less common in Switzerland.

    I wonder what his next fixation will be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭pad406


    Will have to wait for the details, if they ever emerge, but I really hope the Orange Buffoon got nothing substantial out of these talks. If he did, I fear for the worst



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,851 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    This has been his playbook from day one. There's usually ample opportunity for the inside circle to make money on whatever it is in that whole circle of ****. On this occasion it looks as if they status quo is a it was a week ago. Denmark had always been open to the items DJT is claiming as a 'win' now.

    However on this occasion he has gone way way too far and alienated other members of NATO and ironically ended up de-stabilising the world order.

    All the time he has been building up the leaders of China and Russia while on the other hand hating them......

    There's no logic or bigger plan where this guy is involved.....

    As I said this time he has gone far and above any time in the last and it will have significant but understated repurcuasions.



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