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Plant & Weed ID Megathread

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there was a sarcococca in my last house - as mentioned, load of seedlings underneath it; and very scented. i'm trying to remember the smell though; was there a whack of basil off it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I'm useless at describing smells, so I'd call it clovey orange 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    One of my must have plants. Raises the January spirits when I walk around the garden. Very easy to grow on from all the little seedlings. I've given some to almost everyone I know!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I'd describe it as a heady sweet perfume, not like any herbs - closer to roses.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I don't think I've ever smelt sarcocca flowers, but would you say it's similar to chimonanthus, which I would describe as a cross between church incense and citrus?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I had sarcococca at my previous house and it had a lovely scent, but now I have several, mostly from cuttings the same plant, though there is one other one, and none of them have great scent at all. I think I will have to go on a scented plant hunt.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    a friend's mother has one of those trees that smells like burnt sugar when it's shedding its leaves. bizarre when you first experience it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Cercidiphyllum japonicum aka Judus Tree. Great smaller tree but where I had a couple in the UK the new leaves sometimes got hit with late spring frosts. Magnificent autumn color along with the smell.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I thought that Judas trees were famous for their flowers, so I looked it up - according to Wikipedia, Judas trees are Cercis siliquastrum. I didn't know the botanical name for either, so I could very well be barking up the wrong tree, quite literally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Thats the other Judas Tree :-) Which I remember as (whats that tree called) silly question. Cercis siliquastrum. Its probably better to call the other the Japanese Judas Tree. I seem to remember the leaves can be a little similar but obviously not the flowers.

    So thats smelly leaves Cercidiphyllum japonicum, Japanese Judas Tree

    and flowering Cercis siliquastrum, Judas Tree

    In case anyone asks why the Cercis siliquastrum is called the Judas Tree, is its the tree that Judas is supposed to have hung himself on. Any gardener will tell you it never produces branches strong enough to hang yourself on.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I've been smelling the sarcococca again and I'd say the closest scent is hyacinth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I see loads of this growing on roadsides and waste land. It looks a bit like bergenia. Anyone?

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Not sure about the flowers, but those to me look like violet leaves.

    Edit: never mind, fooled again!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yep, it's an invasive thug.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭blackbox




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭digitalsystem


    Hi, would anyone be able to help identify these bare root trees? I've tried Google lense but no joy. About 1ft high



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Best guess would be sycamore. If there are a lot of them then that on its own is fairly diagnostic.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭digitalsystem


    Thanks, I got a bunch of bare root trees. I'm told they are all native Irish but don't know what types they are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Well native in that they born here perhaps.

    I'd suspect sycamore too, in which case unless you have a particular use for them they're just a bunch of weeds.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    might be an idea to take a close up photo of the buds at the top of the twigs. it's a fairly small photo so hard to see detail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Put them in a nursery area or pots for a year till you can figure out what they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    This isn't really an ID question, just something odd that has happened. Or maybe someone can explain it.

    There is a large not very interesting flowering current in the garden with very average pink flowers. Daughter was cutting it back recently and out of a thought, picked up a few of the branches she had pruned off. Completely bare branches with just the smallest brown buds. She stuck them in a vase with some other bits and they have been there a couple of weeks. The buds opened and produced leaves, then pure white flowers. There has never been a suggestion of white flowers on the bush before, so what has happened?

    Any suggestions? Does this happen when you force currents? I like them, but I am not sure there would be white flowers if I attempt to grow the twigs.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20


    Interesting. I wonder is it a reaction to a missing enzyme or mineral which would have been produced at the root? I'm just guessing, not even sure that plants use enzymes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭standardg60


    An anomaly, cutting has decided to produce white flowers, and there are white varieties of flowering current around probably due to the same process. It should continue to do so if you plant it out.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    @digitalsystem

    Did you by any chance get them under the Hare's Corner scheme?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Don't think they can be anything other than Sycamore just based on how common Sycamore is? Field Maple is a possibility, same family and at that stage of growth almost impossible to distinguish from Sycamore.

    Sycamore - Acer pseudoplatanus

    Field Maple - Acer campestra

    Field Maple is more of a very large shrub, can sometimes make a good size tree and often planted in the UK in mixed hedgerow plantings. Nice species to have for biodiversity but still not a native.

    This is quite a good guide. The key point to note is opposite buds https://www.field-studies-council.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/FP1-Trees-in-winter-FINAL.pdf

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Any chance they could be ash?



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    I asked about the Hare's Corner scheme because they are distributing native shrubs and tree saplings to applicants at the min. They certainly aren't including sycamore, nor Ash, in their shrub and tree bundles, but they are distributing Guelder Rose, and to my eye, that's what these look like. Bare root Guelder Rose have a super root system!



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