Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I’m sick of hearing that multinationals could “pack up tomorrow” and leave us worse off than 2008. That argument has been repeated for years while investment, employment, and tax receipts have continued to grow. Caution is sensible, but endless fear is lazy thinking. Yes, we should diversify into high-tech, fintech, agriscience, food-tech, and renewables. That’s exactly what you do when an economy is strong, not because you expect it to collapse. Planning for the future does not mean talking down the present. These companies didn’t choose Ireland by accident, and they won’t leave on a whim. Talent, EU access, regulation, and political stability matter more than scare stories. In a polarised world, stability attracts capital, it doesn’t run fr=om it.

Also, this Trump fella. Fully aware of what he did the first time. It was continuous and endlessly nuts. When Biden took over it felt like the world could move on, I barely looked at American politics. Maybe time has been kind and the first time was exactly like this, but, this seems way worse. The guy is entirely unhinged. He needs to be locked up. He is speed running everything. Even Hollywood will have to change as the old trope of having America as the good guy is over. What a complete and utter shitshow.

It could be generative AI's finest moment

WTF would anyone pull the rug?

Do you know what the primary purpose of business is? To make a return for shareholders. Even if thats a shareholding of one, operating out of a laptop in a coffee shop.

And those businesses increase those returns by growing their base through investment.

And what are the factors that instill the confidence to invest? Stability, certainty and predictability.

For American corporates, and their shareholders, and institutional investors, all of those pillars are under grave threat in their own country right now.

And so, more than ever, they need to find that stable growth in their international bases and markets. You're forgetting that America is only 4.5% of the World. Europe is 500 million consumers. China is four and half times the size of America, in every respect.

Yes, the American economy is disproportionately large, but Trump is going out of his way to end that, and right quick too. How does any American corporation know that it won't be them he turns on next? He's hollowing out the low-value Labour market. If he grabs control of monetary policy from the Fed and sets interest rates artificially low, he basically ends the dollar as a reserve currency and makes the whole paradigm look like Argentina or Zimbabwe. Just watch the cost of living in America then...

I'm college educated in economics and international relations and I'm telling you you are talking utter rubbish.

But if you don't believe me, check out the key US indices since Trump came out with his latest nonsense about tariffing his partners.

Personally honest I'm just sick of this degenerate orange bollocks at this stage, if it not the brain rotting dementia kicking in harder at this stage to explain his increasing bullshít it's the pure cowardice and sycophantry coming from the rest of them in congress who could easily rein in this shítshow if they had the bloody spine to do so. This shít should have ended 5 years ago, Republicans had a choice to end this but they valued their own hide and a cult of a party over the national interest and here we are. That we're here possibly because of corruption in the 2024 elecion but mainly because 1/3 of US is a bloody cult and 1/3'd couldn't have bothered their arse to vote against the Republicans pontificating over the likes of Gaza etc just disgusts me personally.

I honestly don't know if he's gonna make a real attempt at capturing Greenland, if he actually orders it there's likely a good chance that sizable sections of the US military might not follow such an order (possibly could cause a civil war as well) but even at that the PoS has permanently damaged the US with this shít, if he actually does go for Greenland no matter what happens that's the point he's crossed the proverbial Rubicon, there's information circling that the EU will mass dump US bonds on the market in such a scenario with possibly Japan, Australia and the UK following suit and if they do that the Chinese will jump in as well. It would be the US's "Suez Canal" and end them as a Superpower as it would be the equivilent of an Economic Nuke will send their economy into a depression in such a scenario.

Honestly it's very likely that Europe will eventually capitalise on the US's degradation over time as the EU is basically the only other entity right now that really values the rule of law, China will capitalise elsewhere of course but the fact we're going through this shít not because of circumstances but because of weak impotent US politicians and a brain rotted suspected pedo convict and his administration of degenerates in the White House really has me wondering when these bastards will get their comeuppance because after 10 years of this shíte I just want to see an end to it even if it means seeing them getting some very ballistic consequences their way.

Add to that:
Takeda Pharmaceutical (Japan)

Roche (Swiss)

Teva (Israel)

Air Force 1 has turned back over the Atlantic Ocean, just seeing it on Reddit.

I doubt it.

Trump is never going to miss the chance to be centre of attention with all the world leaders there being differential and cowardly towards him and to speak/ramble incoherently from his bully boy pulpit about how he is the greatest human to has ever lived.

I saw an estimate on CNN tonight that Europe owns 3.5 trillion dollars of US Treasury bonds. Celebrated US investor Ray Dalio is warning of a capital war.

Trump has just reposted a post on Truth Social saying NATO, the UN and "this religion" are the real threat, not China and Russia.

Trump now openly saying his Board of Peace could replace the UN.

Also its charter says Trump can remain in charge of it after he leaves office, and will choose its successor.

Also countries expected to pay $1bn for permanent membership. Putin and Lukashenko have been invited to join. UK reportedly concerned how this money might be used.

If countries do not pay the money, they are only temporary members though the chairman, Trump, can approve them staying on.

European and Arab countries concerned. Fears it could be use to legitimise US land grabs.

Also Daily Telegraph reporting Canada is preparing in case of a US invasion. Trump has posted a map showing Canada and Greenland as part of the US. Reports the military top brass say it would to be some sort of guerilla war like Afghanistan, as conventional resistance might only last 2 days.

To be fair, guerilla war eg Vietnam, Afghanistan, had been more successful against the US military than conventional force.

Reports China invited to join the Board of Peace.

Also reports from The New Republic that Trump publicly read out a note from Rubio at a meeting with Chevron where Rubio and the Chevron Vice Chairman were present. Unclear if this was cognitive decline or deliberate . Rubio grimaced.

Chevron is the only US oil company operating in Venezuela.

Reports Trump will only be meeting 3 European leaders in Davos, and will also attend a large banquet with executives.

Aye there's a video of that Chevron meeting that did the rounds last week, it's definitely worth a watch.

What do you want them to do ? They have no power.

They have to work towards the midterms now, and it seems they're doing that.