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Orange is the new Burke

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    An affidavit can’t be invalidated by a newspaper article, I more meant that it wasn’t the best to talk to the paper while all this is going on.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    It wasn't the smartest of comments but ultimately it doesn’t make any difference. Once he sets foot on the school grounds he's breaching the injunction even if he's not doing anything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,083 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    He's been jailed five times now, surely the school have grounds to sack him and end this farce?

    If you were garda vetted and had half the convictions he has, you wouldn't be allowed next or near a work environment involving children.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    He's been jailed five times now, surely the school have grounds to sack him and end this farce?

    You can't sack someone that you've already dismissed!

    If you were garda vetted and had half the convictions he has, you wouldn't be allowed next or near a work environment involving children.

    He doesn't have any criminal convictions though?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭harr


    exactly this, I don’t understand how laid back the attitude has been to him being able to enter a School and remain there for days on end . Any other country where someone refuses to leave a location with kids would be dragged out by the cops. Schools are not public places. I know any schools near me wouldn’t allow it to happen.
    It’s crazy to think he feels this behaviour is normal. I said it before if I had kids going to that school and he was a risk to them or causing issues he would be dragged out and I think most parents would feel the same way



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Something rotten with the whole affair that it cannot be put to bed. Like a Benny Hill sketch at this stage. Has to be the legal eagles tying it up in knots..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,476 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It's Enoch tying it up in knots, appealing anything he can think of in relation to the appeals panel to delay the day he is actually considered fired and stops being paid (albeit he doesn't get that money anymore)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    But why is it that he can keep doing this? The system needs fixing here. It’s an absolute disgrace that he can be allowed keep this going.. that is my point!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Mr_A


    It's almost vanishly rare to come across someone so willing to use absolutely every angle to delay, disrupt and complicate proceedings.

    They say hard cases make bad law.. this might be one of those situations, very lard to legislate for people like this.

    Hopefully he is running out of road in anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭jacool


    Today is January 19, 2026. Worth noting that Enoch Burke was dismissed by Wilson's Hospital School on January 19, 2023!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,332 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's probably because he keeps dragging in the "my constitutional rights are being infringed" rubbish and no one [except him] wants to have denial of religious rights arguments being dragged through the courts again.

    I agree with you, it's a disgrace that he is able to keep dragging an industrial disagreement through the courts on his false claims that his religious rights are being denied him by the make-up of the panel membership. Change the rules around what can be mentioned or listed as grounds for appealing an employment issue to exclude what is best left to the four courts; allegations of deprivation of constitutional rights.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The system is set up to protect employees, especially potentially vulnerable ones. However, now it is being abused by fundamentalists who only respect legal outcomes that suit them. Tightening the rules to prevent the likes of Enoch getting his way will possibly have negative impacts on genuine cases.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,381 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    What more can you do. Getting on for two years in prison and over two hundred thousand in penalties.

    There's lots of repeat offenders that spend most of their lives in prison. In this case it's futile and pointless,but not unusual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    yep and as usual with the ‘my rights’ crowd, whatever their cause is, everyone’s else rights don’t matter to them. You’d have to look beyond the end of your nose to realise that other people are affected by your actions though….

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭juno10353


    I understand that the situation between Wilsons School and Enoch is a civil one. But, i thought that when a judge gave you an order and it's disobeyed then it becomes a criminal disobedience and the imprisonment is a sentence and so is a criminal offence. So why has Enoch not got a criminal conviction? Am I missing something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,705 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Just leave him there and forget about him. If he wants to get out let him come crawling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,870 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    He hasn't committed a criminal act, yet.

    With the best will in the world, they aren't going to section him for contempt.

    Although a way should be found to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,028 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Enoch Burke returned to jail for breaching court orders

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,282 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Can the judge not give him say a 12 months sentence? His continued defiance (and short incarcerations) is incredibly unfair on the school.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭thenuisance


    I'm hoping that this is what the judge was hoping for when he gave the last order to stay away from the school. I'm hoping it has been phrased in such a way as to allow the judge to sentence him to jail for a period. I've no doubt he will appeal but I don't think it will take very long for the appeal to be dismissed and avenues for further appeal closed.

    At some point I'd like my money back from this shower. I have no issue with paying for peoples right to free speach - but this is not, and never has been, about free speech.

    As an aside one of my kid's schools had to take action against a man who hung around the school and intimidated the kids - particularly the girls. He tried to tell the Gardai that they couldn't stop him if he didn't do anything and didn't go into the school. The Gardai said that the schools boundaries extended to the pavements outside the school and those opposite and took him away. I got the gist that Gardai do have powers outside the school particularly in relation to motorists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,332 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    You might try the internet for a more sure answer but as it's for a civil offence involving direct contempt of court: ignoring it's order and then telling it that it's wrong, he's in effect tying the courts hands on its response. The court has given him release twice now in the hope that he'll change his approach to how the law works without a change by him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,381 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    He'll be out for the summer holidays no doubt. Until September comes around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,866 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    That's what baffles me too.

    His argument is that he turns up every day to teach but if he's dismissed, he will have no timetable and no classes allocated to him. Who does he think he will be going teaching every day he turns up?

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - wishing death and suggesting incest in the family is not on, have a think before you post. Some posts deleted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,258 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    He has been dismissed. He has no classes assigned to him and no timetable.

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    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    What I can't understand is why the judicial system entertains any application from a plaintiff who is in contempt of an existing court order?

    Perhaps the judge was giving Burke one last opportunity to demonstrate his contempt before throwing his DAP injunction case out on Wednesday? We can only dream…

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    There is no crime to sentence him for. It will continue to be contempt of court with an indeterminate sentence (controlled only by Burke deciding to continue being a jackass)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Did the judge let him out last week, knowing he could mark the date like this?

    eb is being played like a puppet on a string by a lot of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭BK5


    Noticing a good drop off of support for him online too, and a lot of people are correcting others who don't know the real facts of why he's in jail. Also, a lot of people are really seeing what a horrible, lying, hateful individual he actually is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,099 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    "I'm not in contempt of court, I have the utmost respect for the courts" - Enoch Burke.



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