Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

When was the last time you exported commercial goods to the US ?

Can't he just tariff goods that are most valuable to them 8 countries so they would be hit harder for example wine or champagne, that will affect france but not so much other eu countries that are not big producers of said goods.

Just putting it out there to people saying he cant just tariff some countries.

Trump's actions today in declaring Tariffs on UK, Denmark and other EU states must be seen for what it really is.
It is a direct attack upon NATO and the collective security approach that was adopted with that treaty.

It is a knife between the ribs of the western alliance and the reliance upon the USA as security backstop.
It also should for the EU, bring article 42.7 of the Lisbon Treaty to the fore.
When the EU adopted a position that saw it adopt a single foreign policy?
It believed that it's regulatory and trade mass, would allow it to direct and impose it's(our) foreign policy aims without recourse to military action.
It's a lovely idea but, it's one that fails in the face of American imperialism and the emergence of Russia & China in driving multi-polarity and geo-political chaos.

Europe must ensure that we are robust in defending the territory of our constituent nations and in Greenland in particular, we must ensure that the decisions in Nuuk are supported as being a constiuent part of the Kingdom of Denmark.

The return of might makes right as a constituent part of US foreign relations?
Cannot be accepted and if the US wishes to continue on that path?
Then expel them from Europe, deny them basing rights, access and overflights.
Exercising global power without those European bases becomes a lot harder for the US.
It also of course, plays into the hands of China & Russia in fragmenting the "West".
But fragmented or not, we cannot allow whatever the US has descended to, be the hegemon.

This is the ultimate of European unity and of what the EU should be.
A leader, independent and strong minded in support of liberal democracy?
Or a vassal, at the heel of an ever more Imperial USA.

Putin and China must be licking their lips looking at this sh1tshow.

It’s certainly forcing people to the table. Trump doesn’t want Greenland as another US state- he wants to rape the land of minerals and resources and yes he will probably expand the US presence in the country too- but the people? He’ll want them out- most likely to Denmark - it will be purely a military run base, not a country with citizens.

His tarrifs game with much of Europe will just drive us further away from America and into new markets- but Europe will definitely suffer short term - maybe for next 10 years. NATO also looks dead in the water - we (Europe) can’t keep a military relationship going with a country it doesn’t trust.

Every European citizen can vote with their feet and refuse to visit America (unless for business purposes) - while it won’t make a huge dent in the American economy it will hurt - it’s a token gesture but I’m of the mind of do what’s in our control and lawful - it’s then up to European governments to work out how they will respond . He’s a tyrant and bully and there’s plenty there to impeach him now- but the American political system on both sides are cowards and full of greed - they’ll do nothing - in fact, a 3rd term for Trump is very likely - potentially America on a war footing or state of emergency in place will get him to extend his second term indefinitely

At a guess- next Tuesday at latest

I think the EU can just sit on this a bit.

He always backs out and claims a victory of sorts, I think this will be the case again.

The tariffs are, as they always have been, a tax on Americans, not Europeans. They will foot the bill, as they have done since the start of this.

It’s another game of checkers for Trump, and chess for the EU. He really isn’t a great or efficient negotiator, this is just another example of that.

If he applies tariffs on the EU, Ireland will be tariffed. He can’t pick and choose one EU country over another, he still doesn’t understand what the single market is…

America is a little too big for it's boots.(bad saying but it's true) The world is far bigger than USA. Does the world have to revolve around USA. Can the rest of the world not trade with each other and let America self absorb itself.

Why do we need to deal with them. Yes they own all the major companies but to hell with them there are a lot of intelligent people in the rest of the world who can surely fill in the for the American companies we will no longer deal with.

My 2cents.

Farage trying his best and failing

The hint is in the name, SINGLE market.

He simply can’t pick countries from the bloc, all trade from the EU is treated as one, that’s the whole point.

How are we in 2026, and people still don’t understand this concept. It’s very, very basic.

The answer is in the name " country of origin "

It will say the EU on the customs form, due to it being the single market.

This feels like a Brexit thread all over again.