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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Another thing to note, for some reason there were alot of Albanians "protesters" in Iran. Not sure what their beef is?

    Post edited by mulbot on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 342 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Hadn't seen that before.
    Some cultural connection maybe?

    Something I learnt today - during the British Petroleum dictatorship '53-'79 , the western Shah puppet began a program of forcing women who wore traditional Persian muslim attire to wear Western & European style dresses.

    So all those "before the revolution - mini-skirts" type memes can be seen in a new light.

    Post edited by Lucien_Sarti on

    James Connolly, The Irish Flag (1916)
    Common Prosperity, China (2021)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Well that's very interesting. I'll happily spend a few hours tonight researching that. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,325 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A red herring.

    Starlink is used extensively in the Ukrainian army for example. Indeed its a cornerstone of their drone and intelligence operations. Should they cancel using Starlink because of Grok AI?

    People can disagree with what GrokAI is used for by some, but still recognise that Starlink in the hands of the Iranian protestors, can help in dismantling the regime. You think its OK for the regime to hunt these people down and kill the, for the crime of logging onto the internet, while you yourself enjoy the freedoms of Ireland to do the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Wow Mark, talk about strawman construction. That must be a record.
    If Israel was killing Palestinian protesters/rioters you would be the first on here defending it, so you will understand if your concern is not taken seriously.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,215 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Getting involved in a family row is tricky for an outsider at the best of times. Apparently, Trump wants action that is swift, decisive and not spark a sustained war - contradictory aims. If Israel hasn’t been able to get rid of Hamas what will a few bombs in Iran do? There’s a regional element to this as well. Trump’s very generous buddies on the other side of the Gulf (whose executions he doesn’t criticize) won’t want such protests to spread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 342 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    It was just an aside on a recent video post of California's foremost Marxist-Leninist geopolitical analyst, Madeline Pendleton.

    Let us know what you find.

    James Connolly, The Irish Flag (1916)
    Common Prosperity, China (2021)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    Looks like the protests are dying down after thousands were killed and these backwards theocratic bast*rds will rule Iran for a while longer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Were you hoping the US would try bomb Iran?, seems the diplomatic approach from Russia, Iran and the US was a much better resolution



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    What became clear from the 12 day war is Russian defense systems aren't what they are cracked up to be. We saw further proof of this in Venezuela too. Most of the Iranian missiles were intercepted by Israel despite the Iron Dome and arrow system struggling at times. I am not sure Iran had enough missiles to fight a prolonged war. Also Israel managed to wipe out most of Iran's senior military leadership. The IDF didn't lose one senior member as far as i am aware. They also controlled the skies above Tehran.

    So i think overall the idea that Iran were in a strong position after the 12 days war is wrong. Their capabilities were very much degraded. Israel were pressured into agreeing a ceasefire, as Trump feared getting more involved. It seems Donnie likes a swift military operation whereby the American military do some damage and get out, but he fears getting bogged down.

    I accept your point that agent provacteurs were deployed to take advantage of the peaceful protests to further the agenda of certain actors. We have seen this playbook used many times before . By the way Have you ever read confessions of an economic hitman?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Yeah, I'm waiting to see Iran flags on people's Facebook profiles 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    If you remember, it was Iran who were increasing the missile barrages through those 12 days, particularly so over the last 4 days, Israel was struggling, they were running out of air defence missiles, only for the UK, France and US helping out Iran would have done severe damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Ursula openly saying they are looking into more sanctions with the aim of bringing about regime change. Maybe one day she gets around to putting a sanction or two on the Israeli apartheid regime given it's current extermination and forced starvation agenda against 2 million people.

    Incredible double standards.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    A bizarre report coming out that Bibi asked Donnie not to attack Iran.

    Post edited by nacho libre on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Is there any possibility that Iran have a nuke?, Russia getting involved diplomatically, and last week those 3 Belarusian cargo planes that landed in Tehran,?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's very odd alright. Why would Bibi try to stop Trump from bombing Iran. This will be difficult for pro Israelis to accept, if the report is true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Why would they build a nuke. It's not as if any countries are a threat to security, attacking them, blowing up nuclear facilities or trying to force regime change or anything is there ?

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Because they weren’t prepared for the consequences. Maybe it’s all they understand. Israel wouldn’t so readily attack and occupy its neighbours if they suffered real consequences. The western “civilised” world won’t impose any consequences. States must develop that capability themselves.
    if you want peace speak softly and carry a big stick.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    What was the online chatter today about an earthquake in Israel, near Dimona?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Historically speaking an attack from outside would only serve to galvanise the population and bolster support for the regime.
    Look at the example of Israel. Prior to October 7th the population was at each others throats, with huge protest marches and talk of civil war.
    Then as soon as October 7th happened people united to face a common foe.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 342 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Question – how long do people think the Euro settler colony has left to exist?

    Like Franz Fanon said, colonialism has to be destroyed – the idea of discussion or negotiation with any colonist is total naive absurdist, delusion.

    There are so many variables but if I had to pick a range – I’d say, it will be in the dustbin of history within 5 years (100% related to the rapidly waning power of the US military, or well, the global perception of same) or 2026 (yes, I am serious – based on Iran’s missile annihilation capability and the US empire running out of road / back to the wall/ collapse / chaos).

    Because with the Gaza genocide – Euro-Nazi Milejkowski signed the colony’s death warrant, IMO.

    I think the colony’s next move vis-a-vis Iran could be or will be fatal for this irredeemably repellent Euro-Nazi sh1thole outpost!

    Any bids for longer than 5 years?
    ( Apologies for the heavy use of the term Nazi – but Godwin doesn’t apply when you’re talking about actual Nazis)

    James Connolly, The Irish Flag (1916)
    Common Prosperity, China (2021)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    If your prognosis, for this year, or within 5 years is based on rapidly diminishing US military capability or Iranian missile capability then I think you are completely mistaken.
    Western countries have already intervened to protect Israel from a war they started. If Israel is ever seriously threatened, most western countries will stop at nothing to defend it.
    Israel will not be found guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity or any other war crimes in the ICC or ICJ.

    Israel will not be sanctioned or expelled from the Eurovision, UEFA, Olympics or tiddlywinks Federation. Israel will continue to shoot at UN peace keepers until they are forced to pull out at the end of next year. Israel will continue to grant citizenship and voting rights to freshly arrived emigrants from Brooklyn while denying them to fourth generation Palestinians. Israel will continue to be the hub for real time testing of surveillance and automated killing technology. Israel will continue to be a safe haven for paedophiles and state sponsored child rape for compromat.
    Israel will be around long after all of us are dead and when future generations “ask Grok” about October 7th and its aftermath the only suffering that will be mentioned is that of those killed by Hamas and the psychological suffering of IDF soldiers who were forced to shoot Palestinian children being used as human shields.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    You might be on something, perhaps Bibi was hoping Donnie was intending on regime change, but Donnie ruled that out . So Bibi feared any attack short of that aim was not worth it as it may galvanize support behind the regime as we saw after the 12 day war. It might also undermine the idea that the majority of Iranians are against the regime. The other possibility is that Iran has developed a new capability that forced Bibi to become less gung ho for an attack on Iran



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,630 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's true if Iran had parity with Israel in military terms the 12 day war would not have happened. The lesson is if you have an effective deterrence no other nation will risk attacking you . This is why we never hear any talk of an impending attack on North Korea.

    " The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looks like no attack by the US unless they move all troops out of the region or come up with something that can shoot down Iran's missiles.

    trump.jpg

    Reminds a lot of that Ben Givir when he was confronted in the street getting blamed for starting the attack on Iran. Could you imagine if they were stupid enough to try again. they could of went on for months if they wanted.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    This is what happens when a state acts with absolute impunity for generations.

    Develops nuclear weapons. No consequences.

    Occupies multiple countries. No consequences.

    Commits genocide. No consequences.

    Attacks neighbours. No consequences.

    Murders people in Europe. No consequences.

    Spies on allies. No consequences.

    Attacks US ship. No consequences.

    Murders American citizens. No consequences.

    Murders children, doctors, peacekeepers, journalists. No consequences.

    Plants car bombs, bombs foreign Jewish communities, murders diplomats, attempts to murder a US ambassador. No consequences.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭rogber


    Would love to see the leaders of Iran killed and the people freed. Though would rather the Iranian people achieve it than with outside force



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