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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Indeed, currently listening to a book called "burn them out". It's a history of facism in Ireland, well worth a listen and the parallels to today are quite striking, particularly in America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    What i cant make out is how they make money out of it. Sure nobody in their right mind clicks on an ad in their email or in Farcebook etc.

    The likes of Teamoo transactions (see what I did there 😉) (actually, I'm going to TM that for my new dairy farming link website!) are notorious for getting hacked/scammed.

    Moo Moo Teamoo, all of my dreams come true…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    She might just have been looking to buy a new pair of jeans, or something.

    Post edited by chooseusername on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭tanko


    No, not really, not when we see a member of the Fine Gael national executive/Chairman of a county council stealing €172,000 from a mental health charity and spending it on crystal meth, liquid ecstasy and Brazilian prostitues i’d say it’s pretty accurate. The party of law and order is capable of anything these days but sure i suppose it’s all Gript medias fault, they must have made him do it.

    Would you prefer rotten corrupt, thieving Blueshirt???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Probably the same percentage corrupt as any other group in this country. like the priests, no point in labelling all for the crimes of a few.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Your data is always worth something to someone. It's such a ridiculous model that the Internet was never intended for but once large corporations get involved everything changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Under the new google on my phone there's a green dot comes on in the top right hand of the screen when it's listening. But it means nothing really. You are not going to be staring at the phone looking for a green dot when you are using, let alone when it's in your pocket.

    Not to freak Wrangler out but I'd say your one had the mic button pressed for google either on purpose or accidental and then the audible response function was activated prior.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Packrat


    In the new Merc Sprinter buses we have at work the voice assistant occasionally responds to a question I'm asked by the guests. No buttons pressed to cause it. Fcuking thing is always listening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭One2Many7ups


    There was a far higher proportion of peadophiles as priests back in the day as they had power and access to children. Obviously not all priests but a much higher proportion than say the gardaí at the time. That has changed now as priests no longer have power or access to children. The peadophiles now flock to Tusla and NGO's with access to children.

    Politics has always attracted the worst power-hungry corrupt scum out there so despite some decent politicians the scene is rampant with horrible narcissists. What makes it worse is corruption breeds cronyism as corrupt politicians will help their fellow corrupt to succeed so an honest person doesn't get in and expose the scams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,152 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Yeah - you only have to look around the world atm to see that politics clearly attracts some of the worst types of people out there😞



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    Do you have any opinion on the content of the article? I don't think it's far right to call out the IFA's culpability in this. I think some interesting points are made that I've not heard articulated on RTE or the Irish times anyway.

    I remember the arguments over Lisbon and the discussions about giving up our veto power, are we not seeing the outcome of that now? Why does the government funded RTE not mention any of this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,925 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The Lisbon Treaty is nearly 20 years ago. We can't forever keep debating past decisions. Should we have voted for divorce in 1995? I mention this as the crowd who fund Gript actually want to row back on all such social legislation and Referenda of the last 30 years. That's the Gript agenda.

    We are where we are. The EU could not progress at all with all 27 countries having a veto.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    Who are the crowd you think fund Gript? I'm an ordinary farmer and I don't pay the TV licence fee, I give the money I used to pay to RTE to Gript because I want media to hold the government and those in powerful positions to account.

    I think it's very relevent that the IFA/current government parties (including our current leader Mr M Martin) campaigned in a referendum for a position that removed our veto on trade while telling us that it was not happening/was inconsequential. Now we see the consequences we should ignore it, not call it out? Good media should have institutional memory and be able to point out how we got where we are and hopefully by highlighting past fake news get people to not automatically believe what they are being told today by those in authority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    IFAs policy is driven by the farmers on the ground, there's meeting every month in every county, the county chairmen then bring the decisions to national council every month. there's plenty of opportunity to correct the decisions IF THEY'RE WRONG, Farmers are lazy when it comes to attending meetings or working for the good of all farmers,

    How dare you talk about IFA's culpability, when the decisions reported are farmers decisions,

    Fecking take responsibility for your decision or admit you were too lazy to attend meetings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    I was in school during the Lisbon referendums so won't be taking any responsibility either way.

    I'm not trying to get into a big argument about the IFA - I had family members that went to jail for protests with the IFA back in the 70s and was reared on stories about the organisation. That being said, it's interesting that the IFA are now today campaigning against a deal enabled by a referendum they campaigned for while saying it couldn't happen? That the current head of government also campaigned for the referendum but he won't be grilled by the media about his past decisions? We should ignore it and move on? Learn nothing and believe what we are told next time again?

    Do you wrangler think the trade agreement is good for us?

    Do you think it was a good idea to give up our trade veto?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I can categorically say that Poland are arming and preparing themselves for a war in the not too distant future



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,905 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    TheThey never hid that fact. Don't forget they only got thier country back roughly 40 or 5p years ago from the Russians. They won't let that happen again. The weapons and equipment they are acquiring over the next few years is eye watering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,798 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    5 years ago I wouldn’t have supported increased spend on military.
    But the changes in geopolitics is such that the EU needs to stand on its own. I was probably wrong and we should have been doing this all along. I always saw the US as a war monger in the Middle East, but again never saw them turn to a rogue state and start doing Putins bidding in breaking up NATO

    An American president that’s a Russian asset was incomprehensible, yet here we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    It never mattered what i thought, I had to bring the decisions of my county to national council, that's the point I was trying to make. Farmers on the ground make the policy, so any decisions, right or wrong, were made by farmers.

    I've said here that the first protest I was at against Mercusor was twenty years ago, so I don't know how you can accuse IFA of supporting it.

    It doesn't concern me now, I don't care where farming goes from here. I just wish that the trolls would feck off and form their own organisation if they think those supporting IFA are wrong

    here's a press release from ten years ago.

    https://www.ifa.ie/farm-sectors/ifa-says-mercosur-trade-deal-would-be-very-damaging-for-irish-beef-sector/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I know a guy from America, big maga man, trump can do no wrong.
    he often said down through the years that the eu was over relying on the u.s for security, and needed to bolster their own defences. He felt the u.s was being taken advantage off. I would have often argued that Any deal was agreed by both sides.
    He had a particular gripe with Ireland having all the multinationals.
    to be honest a lot of what he said is now being spoken by the White House, so there is definitely a big base of like minded people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,798 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    The thing is the US were being allowed empire status in return. Army bases wherever they wanted them. The world reserve currency which is a massive boon to their economy. It wasn’t a one sided deal and that deal mostly kept world peace.
    But for MAGA nothing is enough. They report our vat system as a tarrif on American goods and now dumb MAGa fools think we tarrif US goods specifically.
    Trump is compromised to Putin, that’s long known, I worked with Americans 20 years ago that talked about this when he was nothing but a failed developer that Russia has videos of him getting golden showers from prossies.

    We shouldn’t need to be defending ourselves against the US, that was part of the deal of them being in NATO and getting so much advantage in return.

    I’m not sure if the order would be executed but if trump tries to take Greenland by force and is resisted by other NATO countries I think he’s fool enough and petty enough to order a nuclear strike on EU soil because he will want to win at any cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,048 ✭✭✭older by the day


    We all hate that the new childrens hospital is gone way over budget. We feel sick at the thought of half a million to keep bikes dry in leinster house.

    How will we feel when we are spending 10 billion to buy a few pieces of artillery that may never be used and will be sold off for scrap value in a few years to buy new ones.

    Weapons is a huge business. And unless ireland can open a Weapons manufacturer business here, the dealers will see Micheal and Harris coming a mile away and rip us off

    If the Russians pulled up to bantry today. Who has the time or will to go fighting with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Any dealer knows our government aren't serious about money when you see 10 million used as a sweetener for a ministers next job in the private sector. It's name your price

    FFG are the scarface money printing meme



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    Do you have any proof to back up your conspiracy theories about Trump and Russia? I'd imagine his many enemies would be delighted to produce the videos of these golden showers etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,798 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Proof is the last thing I’d want to be holding considering the immortality of the US state both open and hidden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    So that's a no then, you have no proof for your conspiracy theories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,798 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I never said I had proof.
    maybe relax a bit, it’s a conversation not a confrontation.
    It will take decades to unravel all the nefarious behaviours of trump and his administration.

    We all knew trump would be bad for america, but he is actively destabilising world peace that was hard gained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Big_Farmer_2026


    But a few posts up you were calling American Maga supporters dumb fools because they incorrectly believed EU VAT was acting as a tariff on their exports but are now throwing around conspiracy theories that the US president gets pissed on by russian prostitues and is controlled by Russia.

    You like much of the tin foil hat brigade are just annoyed somebody is asking you to backup your bs and can't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I see on Facebook irish farming forums there's new posters with American profiles and American sounding names posting anti European and pro trump rhetoric.



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