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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Looks an emotional tear jerker with top class performances , Paul and Jessie stars continue to rise



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,705 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Perchance to dream…bloody good trailer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭lukin


    It got good reviews at the start but now I notice there has been a bit of a backlash to it. The LA Times gave it a negative review.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    Stunning … . frankly stunning.

    I am the least person whose algorithm would show up a Shakespearean fiction drama, I persisted once I saw the awards.

    Mescal is all in here, everything is on point, huge resurrection post Gladiator.

    But Jessie Buckley is other wordly, the guttural scream in childbirth, the unrecognisable grief of loss, there are performances and then there's this . . . from a women who normally looks like she'd want to bate you with a hurl if you looked at her wrong this is transcendent. I make no apology for the obvious hyperbole that this is DDL level, with no excuses.

    Huge shoutout for the direction & child performances, believed in it all.

    Overall, 5/5 stars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,070 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    From what I have heard in the media this last week, this is the best film ever ever made. In the history of cinema.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭lukin


    The Sunday Times gave it a really s####y review today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Really really enjoyed it, exceptional performance from Jessie Buckley. For the third act it probably helps if you've an awareness of Hamlet (leaving cert bate it into me years ago!), but for the first 2 acts it's a much more intimate beautifully told story of this very specific little family, and their loss and grief.

    It'll likely suffer here a bit for having two Irish stars though, in that it'll bring a broader more mainstream audience than it's probably intended for, which is definitely going to fuel some backlash.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    It's based on a book by an Irish writer also.

    We really are a nation of storytellers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,177 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,302 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Doubt I will go to see it, subject doesn't interest me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Why would you bother posting then? Very odd.

    Congrats to Jessie Buckley on the Golden Globe. Another rising Irish star.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,937 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    No it's not in fairness. Actors portray different nationalities all the time.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No. I was here for reviews. I definitely will go and see it. Your post was just grumpy.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I haven't seen it either and same as you I'm here to read the opinions of ordinary cinema goers who've paid money to see it.

    Unlike you I doubt I will bother going even if the reports are favourable. Just not my type of film.

    Seen the trailer but it didn't tempt me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,302 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Yeah and that is the joke.

    I watched her in Wild Rose yesterday and she was Scottish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭lukin


    Yeah a lot of critics don't like it. They have accused it of being "emotionally manipulative". I haven't seen it so I can't comment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭farmerval


    Can't wait to see it. Funny thing a few online reviews, esp. British ones got really caught up in the Anne /Agnes and the Hamnet/Hamlet interchangeability. They gave most of the reviews about those and the possibility that the tragedy inspired the play Hamlet.

    Seriously missed the point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I never understood the criticism of a movie being "emotionally manipulative". Literally every aspect of filmmaking is intended to manipulate the viewers' emotions. Morgan Freeman reuniting with Tim Robbins at the end of Shawshank is emotionally manipulative. I think when critics say "emotionally manipulative" they may actually mean "emotionally overwrought".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭lukin


    If I was a cynic I would say that some of the British critics who gave it negative reviews are a bit peeved that a movie about Shakespeare has two Irish leads and also a non-British director.

    But I'm not, so I won't :-)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,417 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It’s an OK film with plenty to admire, but one that left me far short of the sobbing mess initially reported on the festival circuit.

    Obviously Buckley is fantastic, and like all Zhao’s films it’s full of beautiful naturalistic compositions that make great use out of both bright, wild exteriors and dingy interiors. It is executed with skill throughout.

    But it also was somewhat flat for me. I don’t for a second blame the filmmakers - including Maggie O’Farrell herself - for abandoning the books structure, but I think the structure that adopts (shifting between perspective and time in each chapter, at least in the first half) results in a more dynamic telling of this story than the more straightforward, linear one we get here. Ultimately I just never really felt the weight of the story’s central relationships or tragedy here in the same way I did in the novel, despite the absolutely sterling work of the cast (Buckley in particular). There are powerful individual moments, no question, just ones that feel like they’re floating without a full picture IMO. Indeed, arguably the film excels in those few moments where it isn’t a grand love story or tale of mourning, but in the smaller, more observational moments between the earthquakes. That suits Zhao’s filmmaking sensibilities better.

    I’d also suggest the finale - omnipresent as it is in all the marketing materials here - is somewhat overplayed here, with the ‘big moment’ overemphasising what was more understated in the book (though I also wouldn’t call it a particularly subtle ending there). Alas, that’s further emphasised by a regrettably familiar soundtrack choice - a piece of music now so common in film that it immediately reminds us of how other films used it, which to me inevitably undermines its power here.

    Again, I wouldn’t go as far as suggesting it’s a bad film, but I’d stop well short of the effusive praise that greeted its premiere screenings a few months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Hamnet – 8/10

    The pacing is questionable and I’m not a huge fan of this fetish for natural lighting that dominates modern cinematography, though I do concede that it all works in service of a thrilling, tear-jerker of a final act.

    Jessie Buckley is the standout, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see her win the Oscar, though by all accounts she has stiff competition from Rose Byrne.

    There’s no denying that this is solid piece of work from Chloé Zhao, it just lacks a bit of visual flair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Just saw it tonight and agree with every word of this! I brought tissues. I was ready for a good cry, dammit. But this just did not move me and felt overwrought, to use another poster’s word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Pretty much confirms my original decision not to bother but could well end up reading the original novel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    saw this last weekend - i was a wreck after it..

    one scene in particular was wayyy too long - unnecessary imo..

    grief can be portrayed without traumatising the viewers..

    strange, I would still say its a great film but… shud come with a warning or something - i dunno.. not v well rounded imo..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,937 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Finally got to see this yesterday.

    Overall I enjoyed it but like other posters I found it had flaws.

    The main highlight of the movie is Buckley. Her performance is spectacular and for me worth a cinema visit alone. She manages to portray raw emotion but at the same time remain controlled. Mescal is also impressive but for me his character of Shakespeare(not Mescal's portrayal but how he is created) just didn't seem like the writing genius would be in day to day life.

    For me though, despite these fine performances, the film does not reach the heights many reviews have given it. I found it tries too hard to link the event with Hamnet to Hamlet, so much that they tell you at the very start that the name Hamnet at the time was interchangeable with Hamlet. Also the method used to show how a grieving Shakespeare was inspired to write the most famous speech in English language history was just difficult to believe. I don't think it would be so bad if the movie made it clear that the story was mostly fiction but it's trying to portray it as a true story that makes me view it otherwise.

    The final act does pack an emotional punch that will impact many but for me the audience reaction at the play was a bit overwrought and schmaltzy despite me enjoying the connection between Agnes and Shakespeare from the point of view of their relationship.

    So for me, to echo Eamon Dunphy, it's a good film but not a great one but is worth a viewing for the performance and I look forward to Buckley's Oscar speech as she really is a talent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭El Duda


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭stevensi


    Went to see it with the good Mrs who was anxious to see it. I knew going by the trailer I'd struggle with it and I have to say it wasn't great (maybe that's just me). Buckley is good in it though although not sure she was as good as we are hearing on the radio/tv shows recently. I'd give it a 2 out of 5 but the Mrs thought it was a 3



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