Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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Sorry that's the wrong answer Seth.

But thanks for coming along. Did you enjoy playing?

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I’m going to share a highly charitable naive supposition on Rubio..

Is it possible that Rubio is trying to position himself as somewhat of a guardrail within the administration, but his hands are effectively tied by the political reality of who he serves.

If you look at Rubio’s track record before this administration, he was a foreign policy hawk, very pro-NATO and historically very anti-Russia. That principled worldview doesn’t vanish overnight.

Look at Rubio during these media events. I’ve been watching his micro-expressions and body language when he’s standing next to Trump, and it tells a different story than his words. There are moments where he looks genuinely uncomfortable, bordering on disgusted by what is coming out of Trump's mouth. You can almost see him physically wincing or holding back a grimace.

If he were to publicly speak in favour of Ukraine he would be fired by Trump before the day was out. Trump views the Iranian regime as an enemy so bravery is allowed there. But Trump despises Zelenskyy with every fibre of his being, so supporting Ukraine/Zelenskyy would be seen as disloyalty.

To be clear, I never agreed with any of his other politically positions apart from being pro-NATO and anti Russia

Principles can be changed when advancement or other rewards are on the table. A lot of Republicans were critical of Trump in the primaries before his first term but very quickly changed their tune once they saw the new lay of the land.

Well the best of both kinds are thick and soupy 👀😁

This is the sort of misinformation post that we are seeing some now posting, and others parroting, that for whatever a member of Trump`s Gestapo deems as obstruction shooting someone three times in the head is the authorized response and should be viewed as acceptable.

Trump barking:

Sunday, declaring that Cuba will receive “zero” oil or money from Venezuela and urging its leaders to “make a deal before it’s too late,” in a Truth Social post

The fact you're still pushing the line that the officer was in immediate danger is nonsense. You've shown not an iota of concern that the administration has buried any investigation and the president has labeled her a terrorist.

There's a hard reality that you will some day realise. Trump is destroying the global US reputation. Turn on politics shows across Europe and the discussion will be around how the US is no longer trustworthy. There's discussions on how ICE are being used as a Gestapo. There's discussions on the fact the president wants to invade bloody Greenland. Meanwhile you've happily justified every step of this decline. If Trump invades Greenland, I'm pretty sure you'll have a justification for that too.

I genuinely can’t believe they would seize Greenland.

It’s beyond deranged

The ice agents have some protection while carrying out lawful arrests and detention in compliance with their regulations.

They have powers while executing lawful warrants for the arrest of illegal aliens. This also applies to to the arrest of persons who have been investigated and are suspected of being illegal. It appears that in Minneapolis they are trawling to find brown or black people to arrest. They are not executing warrants. They have not been investigating people to establish their right of residence. Their whole operation is unlawful. They are being sent into Democrat controlled cities to intimidate the residents and to spread fear. It is a politically motivated excersise.

All of the actions that follow on from their presence is unlawful. As an example if police entered a house to carry out a search without a valid warrant everything that is found cannot be used in evidence. That could include drugs,guns ,stolen property. The fact that the initial action was unlawful everything that followed after is also unlawful.

That is a good way to try and answer my question without actually doing so. Good try. The video shows that the agent at her door didn't consider her to be a danger to him, and probably not a flight risk into the bargain, which unfortunately can never be answered as she was shot dead by his agency colleague. But for that colleague's presence there, Ms Good would be as alive as you or I. Ultimately, the responsibility goes back to Trump and those he appointed to DHS and it's sub-agencies as they were and and doing his policy-bidding on the streets of the U.S.