Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

it looks like Trump may be getting militarily involved in Iran

I didn`t say you were American.

Well no. Not trying to change your mind. You agree with killing someone leaving the scene. I dont.

But, as part of your conclusion of being justified to kill someone, you said she steered left. But you lied really..you knew that wasn't true.

shooting an unarmed woman 3 times in the face driving away was justified!!!
car could have rolled down the road and killed a dozen others.

Well i must have missed that, the same as you missed crucial evidence from all the videos you watched. Steered left yea. Isn't it true you made that up....

now you’re moving goalposts talking about agent leaving the scene etc.

I’ve seen all the videos and believe she drove into the agent I’m repeating myself.

We're all clear on where you lean...

Ehhh, the woman was leaving the scene.

I've a feeling that if you master the boink, you also hunt the eskimo.

He and a few others seem intent on claiming she was gonna run him over which she clearly wasn't.

I don't think they're fooling themselves, they're doing it to annoy everyone else on the thread.

Maybe if some one who has a photo or a video-grab image of Ms Good's car clearly striking Agent Ross rather than a blurred photo image of her car in close proximity to Agent Ross being taken as clear evidence that she drove her car directly at him and striking him, people might be persuaded that Ms Good did drive at Agent Ross with the intent to strike him with it. As it is in the footage recorded by him at approximately the moments when her car was close enough to strike him, he lost control of the phone leaving nothing but a sequence of indeterminate moving images. He did however, as evidenced in the other video footage, manage to be in a position to get a shot off which hit and entered the lower right side of her car's front windscreen. After that, continuation of that video footage immediately afterwards shows him in a standing position firing two more shots through the open drivers side door window at Ms Good.

It, IMO, is remarkable that in the very short time [a matter of seconds] between Ms Good's car allegedly striking Agent Ross and [according, even today, to the Trump Admin, putting him on ground and driving the car over his body] that he was able to get into the standing firing position to fire off the three shots at her. It should be no problem in working out a good and accurate estimate of how few seconds actually passed between the alleged car strike putting him on the ground and his being caught on camera in the standing position firing the fatal injury shots into Ms Good. I think the video footage includes a time and photo speed record so people can work out the actual time past point of the alleged strike and the firing of the shots from Agent Ross's standing position.

If one was to include the alleged vehicle speed factor attributed to Ms Good while she was alive and driving the car, the time between the alleged strike and the shots being fired by Agent Ross might even be shorter than possibly estimated as it is claimed by some she sped the car forward to escape arrest.

I believe the Trump Admin version of the car strike is pure and utter make-believe fake news, as Trump himself would probably say, were it to be put forward by anyone else but him.

I despise Trump, but I have no issues with ISIS being bombed. But I do also see the irony in him being the president of peace.

There is no bodycam from the agent.
The footage from the agent, was taken on his phone.
That's a very important caveat, a bodycam is worn and leaves one's hands free.

The agent used a phone he was initially carrying in his right hand before he switched it to his left a few seconds before he drew his weapon.
A phone that he managed to keep hold of comfortably, whilst somehow taking zero evasive action from the car he and ICE are claiming was "weaponised".

A phone that he managed to keep hold of, whilst also unloading 3 rounds into a moving vehicle.
A vehicle that DHS training makes clear he shouldn't have been standing in front of and a vehicle that in any event?
Wasn't being driven at him and posed zero threat.

Imagine being so in danger, so terrified by the prospect of the car moving slowly towards you.
That you manage to draw a weapon, fire 3 shots, keep recording on your phone without dropping it in your mad leap to avoid death…

Further, his post shooting utterance gives rise to his res gestea at the time of shooting and any pound shop prosecutor would nail a conviction on that alone.
Let alone the actual preponderance of evidence available from the multiple camera angles.
Or the complete disregard of training and procedures the agent demonstrated.