Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

What's wrong with a person's psyche that they have to lower themselves to lie about what happened?

How is it so difficult for them to simply say that what happened was wrong and the shooter murdered a woman? The guy didn't shoot to incapacitate, he didn't shoot to injure and he didn't shoot in self defence. This was shoot to kill.

Shoot to kill a 37 year old woman who was frightened and trying to drive away from masked lunatics with guns.

This is what happens when you have poorly trained people of dubious character armed to the teeth and just itching to use their weapons on someone that they've deemed to be an "enemy".

Something like this murder was bound to happen under those circumstances.

How difficult would it have been to just let her drive off, take her plate details down and follow up later. And even if they didn't follow up later…so what?

Anyone saying that the former option is acceptable over that latter is a genuinely creepy fucking weirdo.

Exactly. And remember, these guys aren't 'police' in the sense of what people are used to complying with. Blue uniforms, badges, police cars, all the rest.

They're masked people in unmarked cars dressed like they're in a militia.

While he doesn't have the power to direct States as to how they run elections, this is the start of it.

I’m sure you just drive through Gardai checkpoints.

Because it'd mean admitting that they're wrong about this. If they're wrong about this, it logically follows that they might be wrong on other things as well.

That's the real issue with MAGA and radicalisation. You think there's a line you wouldn't cross but the line keeps getting moved back after one of these people does something a bit worse than normal and therefore normalises it for MAGA.

I've noticed this over the past decade. Posters I used to respect just ruthlessly debasing themselves because this is what MAGA demands. I've seen people defend Trump during the E. Jean Carroll case and refer to the defendant as a "golddigger". I've seen several attempts to whitewash January the 6th as a peaceful incident along with several attempts to defend the murder of George Floyd.

They don't care is the ultimate answer. They'll talk a lot about how protecting Americans from immigration is important but when the US Gestapo, ICE starts murdering citizens, they'll comb the internet for the MAGA-sanction excuses to parrot then.

Anyway, this is doing the rounds in London:

I do so love London.

and it was not a checkpoint either

I'm sure Gardai won't just open fire on me if I do.

Also there's literally no indication that this woman was engaged in any criminal behavior... So her crime amounted to being panicked by masked men stopping her. And frankly if I was LGBT or a woman for that matter, I wouldn't exactly be trusting of ICE and how they might behave.

The US Postal Office will also try and help him by closing hundreds of postal offices nation-wide and changing the rules for how ballots (among others) are handled:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how-this-new-mail-rule-could-affect-your-ballot-your-tax-return-and-more

Imagine. A Trumpy version of what the Americans call ''stolen valour''. If he can intimidate other recipients of awards into gifting him their medals he can fancy himself a ''hero'' because ''I really deserved the Purple Heart and the Distinguished Service Medal''.

It's not just the speaker of the house that swears in members of Congress. A federal judge can also swear them in. Even Trump appointed federal judges have been keen to uphold the Constitution based on their rulings against the Trump administration.

You are cleaving to the notion that because there is an election that Trump and the MAGts will abide by the results.
Absolute naivety, given his history and even more so, given his and MAGA's current trajectory.
To not consider that in the (likely) event of GOP being blown out in November that they will have already have lain every administrative and procedural delay possible in place to ensure they can continue to maintain control?
Is optimistic in the extreme.
Until the vaunted checks and balances swing into action to protect the State?

The iconography of MAGA, the language of Trump, Miller, and Project 2025, has all pointed to what MAGA is, and the use of ICE as their Sturmabteilung was pointed out by others from the start of this campaign.
In particular the effort in where and how the federal "law" enforcement was being directed.
Its calibrated to drive maximum opposition and outrage in Blue cities and States with far more than just "owning the Libs" as its target.