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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Well as I said, far as I can see, there would be nothing preventing someone classified as a federal agent seeking to have a murder charge moved to a federal court. Especially while arguing that it occurred while carrying out official duties and they were covered by federal immunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    why do Denmark have any say over Greenland ? same as Britain with the Falklands , France in the Pacific etc. a load of European colonial powers who love to keep their fingers in everywhere and it's all about money and power. no difference to the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Is your post an attempt to infer Renee Good was a random concerned citizen who interfered with a police or border enforcement operation when she was shot dead by a masked I.C.E agent yesterday?

    If so, it would be an insult to her memory. It has left her 6-year old son without his mother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    They show a man shooting a woman in the head.

    She was entitled to follow them. She was entitled to film them. She was entitled to voice her opinion about them.

    They're entitled to arrest her if they feel shes impeding them. With police/courts to decide after that.

    What happened there is murder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭banie01




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    You're not really taking the temperature in the US correctly at the moment though.

    This isn't just regular law enforcement giving an order. It's masked ICE goons.

    Not sure if everyone is just going to lie down and comply if they see masked men in random military fatigues get out of an unmarked car and start barking ordering at them.

    Obviously in retrospect she did the wrong thing but it pales in comparison to the ICE reaction literally shooting her to death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭McFly85


    She was precisely someone going about her business. She had a legal right to observe what was happening on that street, and she wasn’t blocking traffic.

    If they wanted her to move, then ask her to move and tell her that she can be detained if she doesn’t, and tell her what law she’s breaking. Don’t run out in an intimidating fashion screaming get the **** out of the car before trying to forcibly remove her without giving her a chance to reply.

    And not wanting to be grabbed by ICE, she tries to leave, reversing slightly before turning the car right and away from the other officer who had inexplicably drawn his gun on her. It’s a brutal murder, plain and simple, and none of her actions should be considered contributory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I take it that you would have no objection to the employers of the illegals being prosecuted equally, especially the hotel and tourism bosses and owners, and that the federal and state agencies taking in taxes from the illegals directly from the illegals wages also be prosecuted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    It's not up to the Americans to decide they get Greenland... The fact they're threatening an invasion is outrageous. The people of Greenland have no interest in being occupied by the US... 85% of the population oppose it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭live4tkd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    It's about the only thing MM can add to paddys day to get trumps attention



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭valoren


    FFS, a Formula 1 car would love such an acceleration from a standing start in that gif. That is sped up footage, sped up to present a false version of what happened in order to deflect from a murder i.e. How the hell did he manage to get three shots off in that split second?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    By all reports, she had been impeding their operations and blocking traffic all day. Even in the video, she is clearly blocking the road, being stopped sideways. They were asking her to exit the vehicle. If law enforcement are ordering you to do something, you do it. You cant just drive away. The guy only drew his gun when she started moving the car which she then sped towards him. Yes, these factors should be considered as contributing to what happened. People are acting like they walked up to her parked car and executed her for no reason, which isn't what happened. Again, I dont think she should have been killed, but some of her actions are questionable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,535 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Not like the twitterer who is a 'remigration supporter' would post anything doctored, now, would he. No doubt a crusader for the truth, uh-huh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The actual guidelines for law enforcement don't support shooting a person in this kind of a scenario. Shooting a driver also puts the vehicle out of control and creates a bigger hazard. Anyway there's no indication that the woman was a terrorist as the president is claiming and the administration is continuing to be a disgrace. But sure, support away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Because the people living there are OK with it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,289 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    If the state proves the action was unlawful/unjustified then he's stuck with the state charge even if the crime occured during the course of duty.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They've all benefitted from the way America has thrown its weight around for decades. Paying per gallon what we pay per litre for fuel is only one example

    Weird take. You are asserting that oil bought on the globally traded market is somehow cheaper if its intended place of use is the US?

    The difference at the pump is entirely down to domestic taxation policies

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭McFly85


    She was parked on the road but not blocking traffic. Cars were going around her, you can see one do it just before she was shot, she was gesturing that they go around her. At best they were mildly inconvenienced, and she had a right to observe and protest.

    And in any case, she should have been able to expect that mildly inconveniencing law enforcement does not result in 3 unannounced bullets to the face. If they scare her and she drives away, let her, take the reg plate and charge her later.

    It’s all on the thuggery and brutality of ICE. No process was followed other than intimidation and violence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    And sped up to make it look worse.

    Lay off the Twitter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    IMG_7650.jpeg

    Definitely not trying to calm the situation, the goal is probably to get protest/riots and then cancel elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Edit: Carla Sands, ex ambassador to Denmark, criticising Denmark, saying it's been making Greenlanders "scared to death"of the US with "their psyops". Presenter asked her who should decide Greenland's future. After sortof dodging it, she said of course the people should.

    Says Greenlanders "were so abused by the Danes". Says Greenlanders were sterilised by the Danes in the past. Says the US cannot allow Russia and China then use Greenland.

    There is some truth to this. There is a dark history of eugenics in the mid 20th century in parts of Scandinavia. But that was also the case in the US. WW2 made that sort of thing politically anathema.

    However I think the solution is for the US to use the existing US-Denmark treaty to ramp up military presence on Greenland, rather than annexation. Annexation would be about the oil, uranium and rare earths in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,877 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I suspect it's inevitable, it's rare that a dictator is deposed without some form of civil war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Must be challenging to be an Ice officer.

    Every day going out there to do your duty with crazy lefties who have been radicalised to think you are the SS.

    Unfortunately that poor lady was clearly one of those lost souls and attempted to kill the officer.

    When all the videos are viewed (multiple angles) its crystal clear the driver was out to kill.

    Mod - warned for trolling

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    RTE had a breaking news item: that a majority of GOP Senators had sided with the Democratic Senators in the U.S Senate vote 52 - 47 from allowing Trump carry out further U.S military operations in Venezuela. Link: https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=90e9b4c97a477c5ded597e4d29107f0b6da85319fd9dd8b508a4809e7200e959JmltdHM9MTc2NzgzMDQwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=04f55f2f-e40c-6108-1379-4b9fe541609e&psq=U.S+Senate+votes+to+block+Trump+from+further+military+operations+in+Venezuela&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY25iYy5jb20vMjAyNi8wMS8wOC92ZW5lenVlbGEtc2VuYXRlLXZvdGluZy1vbi1oYWx0aW5nLW1pbGl0YXJ5LWFjdGlvbi1hZnRlci1tYWR1cm8tY2FwdHVyZS5odG1sP21zb2NraWQ9MDRmNTVmMmZlNDBjNjEwODEzNzk0YjlmZTU0MTYwOWU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Do you feel the same about those that attacked the capital on Jan 6th?

    You must be livid that Trump pardoned them. He effectively told this woman to act this way against the state.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    America is nowhere near a civil war. Firstly, there is no government-in-waiting wanting to remove Trump by force. Secondly, unlike the actual civil war, America is not split by geography. Dem voters and Trump voters life in the same neighbourhoods across the country.

    I'd be much more concerned about individual political violence during the mid-term campaigns. It's a sad state of affairs but I'd be surprised if there are no assassination attempts during the mid-terms.



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