Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Yep, a friend of mine in the US was actually messaging me about how she encountered a guy being taken from his car by ICE yesterday. This was prior to the shooting and she found it incredibly upsetting. Post shooting, it's hitting differently for both of us.

Also just to reiterate, any minority group will feel threatened by ICE. In this case, it was a bisexual woman. If she had anything like a rainbow flag on the car, I can't imagine ICE not behaving inappropriately. At least there's some degree of standards with the police but ICE are a pretty unknown quantity.

Precisely. He pulled his gun out for zero reason, she was no threat whatsoever. If anything, it could be argued the other officer storming out of his car shouting at the woman and attempting to open the door is culpable for needlessly raising the temperature of the situation.

The idea that there’s precedent here that suggests he shouldn’t face justice is total fiction. If these were police officers they would be certain to face justice as there is so much wrong with what happened, not just that he was briefly standing in front of the car.

-She wasn’t a target of law enforcement. She was a citizen expressing her right to observe ICE. She wasn’t blocking the road as the video shows one car going around her before she was shot.

-An actual law enforcement officer would be trained to de escalate. If he wanted her to move her car, he would tell her calmly what they need her to do, and what will happen if she doesn’t comply. He doesn’t go near the person trying to grab them or scream aggressively - that would be a serious breach of protocol.

-And for the shooter, obviously someone properly trained doesn’t stand in front of the car, and certainly doesn’t reach for their weapon that quickly. Anyone who fires a shot will be spending significant time in interviews, doing statements and potentially in court to justify their actions. Also - leaving the scene of the shooting is unheard of.

I’m not saying that the cops over there are perfect, far from it. But any attempt to justify the murder if this poor woman by suggesting the guy was legally justified because he was in front of the car briefly is completely pathetic and massively downplays the severity of what actually happened.

Just Proud boys in uniform!

@Manic Moran

The one quote I always come back to is from Obama;

"Imagine if I had done any of this. Let me just - I just want to be clear about this. Imagine if I had pulled Fox News's credentials from the White House press corps. You're laughing, but know that this is what's happening. It's unimaginable that the same parties that are silent now would have tolerated behavior like that for me, or a whole bunch of my predecessors."

To expand on on that with an extremely short list..

Imagine if any democrat president;

1. Accepted a $400 million USD boeing from the Qatari's, which will cost the taxpayers billions for it to be repurposed as an Air Force One backup, in exchange for allowing a Qatari military base to be commissioned within the USA.

2. Launched their own cryptocurrency, allowing millionaires funnel money to buy influence directly from the President.

3. A presidents family member launched a elite private members club. Charging $500k joining fee which offers access to cabinet members and top administration advisors.

4. Blantantly acted as a salesman on the south lawn of the white house, breaking multiple laws.

5. Mass firing of Inspector Generals without the legally required 30-day notice to Congress, removing internal checks on executive power.

6. Pardoned an Crypto exchange CEO who was convicted in court of money laundering, and he denied knowing Zhao is. Autopen much?

7. Pardoned former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, a convicted drug trafficker, sentenced to a 45-year prison sentence after being convicted for using his position to smuggle 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S. in 2024.

8. Cozied up to Putin as the expense of NATO allies.

9. Threated to stop, and actually stop federal funding to Republican states only.

(hypothetical) 10. Issued an Executive Order creates a task force to wipe the internet of content deemed harmful to public health or democratic integrity (anti-vaccine rhetoric or challenges to election results).

11. Weaponised the DOJ to target political opponents, enemies, and those deemed disloyal, of critical of the president.

12. Wanted foreigners to disclose social media handles on visa applications so that the government can analyse posts, and prevent entry because of content deemed critical of the current US president.

I could probably write 50-75 such examples for the 1st year of his 2nd term ALONE.

How on earth anybody can defend this thug, pedophile, rapist, gangster, sociopath, narcissist, and 34 count convicted felon is simply mind boggling.

As said many times here and in the media, parody of Trump and this institution just doesn’t work any more - watching them live, in action, daily on our screens, is more entertainment than what could be dreamt up by great comic script writers- unfortunately it’s all real, not imaginary - very hard to laugh at it these days given the consequences and impact on the world

A question I’ve asked more than once - where are the Democrats?
Very silent- very passive - not just the politicians, the voters too.
I would have thought given ICE’s behaviour, no less Trumps, there would be riots in the streets. I’m not advocating riots- but large scale lawful protests involving 10s of millions should be the starting point

They're Trump's version of the Sturmabteilung.

Absolutely, apart from the fact that the democratic party is partly responsible for having trump elected by failing to put a credible candidate forward they are simply leaderless and weak at present. Trump and his proud boys(ICE) are doing as they please. As for Europe they also are simply cowering in front of the monster trump.

This excuse again. The Democrats put up a competent administrator while the Republicans put up the best friend of the most famous child sex trafficker in history. Americans made their choice.

This crap again.

The Dems lost, that doesn't make them responsible. If you want to blame anyone for this mess, it's those who empowered Trump in the first place. They are a bunch of cowards.