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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 554 ✭✭✭munsterfan2


    While I think it is unlikely we will see a MAGA style government here, my vote for a specific candidate would be John Collinson, young, rich, stripe is a well known brand and he has already had a piece in the Irish Times about the state of the Irish government and how it should be restructured - https://archive.ph/p7KSj

    Edit: BTW - Its a complete no for me too, just pointing out what could be perceived as the start of a political MAGA lite campaign

    Post edited by munsterfan2 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    We've a different perception of wealth in Ireland than they do in the US.

    In Ireland, it is viewed almost separately to how the individual is perceived whereas in the US, it automatically puts someone in an elevated position in the minds of a lot of people. Trump is the prime example but he's not alone. Frequently they do have extremely wealthy people get involved in politics partly from their perspective because they get to influence things that affect them and because the electorate generally are predisposed to think that if someone has wealth or is viewed as being successful in business, then they will be in government. Trump, Bloomberg etc. Even Vivek Ramaswamy was entertained as a candidate in the Republican Primaries mostly because he was seen as being capable because of the wealth he had gained in business. I think it's maybe because of the "American Dream" that most people are actively or subconsciously pursuing or hoping they will achieve and so when they see someone who seems to have done so they think it automatically identifies them as a capable person as opposed to have had luck or favouritism or lower morals which influenced their success.

    JP MacManus and Tony O'Reilly are two Irish billionaires who I think are/were generally viewed favourably amongst the population in general in Ireland although maybe that is mostly because of their influence on sporting matters and how that generates positive feelings. But even so, if they had ever attempted to gain political office, they'd have been judged differently than how it works in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    It's CFTrump. Who knows what the truth actually is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,759 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    No thanks.

    Countries shouldn’t be run, or take advice, from billionaire tech bros.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's a No for me.

    Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk etc have made me wary of techbro's influence on politics. Apparently, but I haven't seen it said by him directly, he is against regulation in general and in particular the EU's view on regulation of AI and I am someone who personally feels AI has the potential to be massively disruptive in a negative way and needs serious regulation to ensure that that does not happen.

    Also, John's brother posted favourably about Israel at the height of their activities in Gaza in 2024 and while I'm not suggesting John was/is supportive of Israel's actions there, it just adds to the sense I have of not wanting to see our government led by someone who exists more on a global level than a national one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,191 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    **** me. That lad is a meathead riding on his brother's coattails. The ego of both is out of control. These lads are from near where I'm from, something they have very much forgotten. The brother sickeningly posted how 'he missed this run' (Tel Aviv boardwalk) during the height of the genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭ilkhanid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    going back to the day he was apparently shot at. In America I assume when anyone hears a shot ring out that they would immediately Act in such a way that would reduce the possibility of being in firing line. Eg they may run as fast as they can in the opposite direction from where they percieved the firing was coming from , some would seek cover, lock themselves into a room or whatever . I assume that individuals known nationally, be they business people , sports people but ESPECIALLY POLITICIANS would have a heightened awareness of their safety if they heard a shot ring out.

    Given Trump’s experience re being allegedly shot in the ear two aspects of the immediate aftermath ‘jumped out for me’ and that I find highly unusual , namely :-

    (1) instead of Trump ‘going to ground’ he remained standing . The rest of us IN THE WORLD would have immediately get down as low as possible if only to avoid being hit again

    (2) he had the ‘presence of mind’ to shout “fight, fight, fight”. Who in their right mind would find the time and the ‘appropriate words to say anything. Again the rest of us in the world would have put our thinking process and TOTAL CONCENTRATION into what to do so as to avoid being shot at

    (3) my recollection of assassinations/assassination attempts is for the Secret service/ protectors , once they hear a gun ringing out is to immediately physically jump on the person being protected,and get them down as low and as quickly as possible and then having ‘reviewed the scene’ to remove the person being protected to a safe place. The SS act this way knowing that they may be killed in doing their job. This proceedure did not happen in Trumps case . Bits of it did but in a much slower pace than I was expecting

    So , was he really shot at?


    ‘s case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu


    If it wasn't for the direct evidence of the dead bystander and the photo of the whizzing bullet plus his apparent last minute movement it would look extremely suspicious.

    The man has institutionalised stupid but also crazy.

    Maybe his handlers organised it.Has the shooter come to trial?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,343 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Negative on a trial. The "sniper" was shot dead on the roof.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I don't think so. This case probably falls under "right principle, wrong plaintiff", one where the court is disposed against the plaintiff and doesn't want him to win because of who he is or what he's done specifically. Rahimi was a recent previous such case: Few people were going to presume a person with a history of shootings and a hit and run was going to win on a case where he's arguing his committing spousal abuse should not prevent him from having a firearm, though a number of commentators felt that the case would be won if it were a better person making the claim. And sure enough, the court came down heavily against him.

    In this case, like many, the court has used a very narrow rationale. The only really solid difference of opinion on the matter of law which resulted in the 6-3 split was on the definition of "regular forces." Six of the judges felt that the government had to run out of regular federal military before bringing in the Guard. Three felt that it meant that the government had to run out of the civilian agencies usually enforcing laws before bringing in the military of whatever stripe. One of the six stated he had serious practical reservations about the "federal military first" principle if it were not given various limits and that he might change his mind after briefing.

    The other differences were not so much on legal interpretation as much as application, but not necessarily relevant to the specific case at hand. The court left open an argument for a Debs and Neagle defence. The court seems to have left open the possibility of just replacing the Guardsmen with regular army, if not local Guard as opposed to out-of-state Guard. It left open the possibility of better substantiating a need.

    If anything, I suspect it's the reverse of what you suggest: Not that the Court wants the administration to make better arguments, but it is leaving itself open to making a ruling which will allow future administrations the latitude to do the same sort of thing, but in different circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Its daily low dose (usually) aspirin which is fairly uneventful (other mild painkillers have similar effects), quadrupling the usual dosage is odd.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/in-depth/daily-aspirin-therapy/art-20046797



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Did you read the linked article? A couple of highlights:

    But taking aspirin every day can have serious side effects, including bleeding in the gastrointestinal tract. 

    The risk of heart attack and stroke goes up as you get older. But the risk of bleeding from aspirin goes up even more. So:

    • In people who have a low risk of heart attack, the benefits of taking a daily aspirin don't outweigh the risks of bleeding.

    Not exactly uneventful.

    OTOH:

    • The higher the risk of heart attack, the more likely it is that the benefits of daily aspirin therapy are greater than the bleeding risks.

    TBF Trump does look like someone at high risk of heart attack and/or stroke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,343 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Define "regular federal military" as distinct from the Guard keeping in mind the purpose the Guard was apparently activated for. I don't understand how "regular federal military" could be used in direct law enforcement operations or protection of civil operation bases where THEY WERE NOT BASED AT hoping the SCOTUS SIX also fully appreciates the difference between the federal govt using the "regular federal military" as distinct from the Guard for that purpose.

    For the purpose of this side debate, I'll decline to respond to any discussion on whether it was for protection of the bases the CIVIL federal forces [I.C.E etc] were located at OR for use of the Guard in direct law enforcement operations like the CIVIL federal forces were tasked with, thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The whole thing about the NG is a complete nonsense and yet again shows the hypocrisy of the gun lovers. We need our guns to protect ourselves from the government, and yet they sit idly by when the government effectively introduces military law in the cities.

    As Jim Jeffries said, all the other arguments are rubbish. It simply comes down to "I like guns". Because it sure as hell isn't about stopping government overreach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    From some of the pictures of Trump, it seems pretty highly likely that he has suffered a mild stroke.

    Add to that the clear issues with his ankles and his clear cognitive decline. He recently had to undergo an MRI and now he had admitted that he is on a course of daily aspirin (of course he had to big it up that he took way more than the doctors said as this makes the story about that rather than the fact he has just admitted that rather being in the best shape ever doctors are worried about his blood and require his to take daily medicine.

    Which is odd because it wasn't only recently that Levitt was assuring everyone that Trump was the healthiest POTUS ever, and the hand bruises were due to all the handshaking he had been doing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Any time Leavitt makes a statememt, I just assume she is lying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    she never lies . But she give us the alternate truth. HAVE YOU FORGOTTON THAT WE HAVE ENTERED THE POST TRUTH ERA !!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Dick Cheney's cardiologist weighed in on CNN. Summary: "It makes no sense to me."

    Aspirin is an anti-coagulant, it really isn't a 'blood thinner.' As we've seen with CFTrump's tiny bruised hands, if you're bruising easily, you should take less anti-coagulants like Aspirin. Apparently he's taking 4x the recommended dose.

    (https://x.com/TheLeadCNN/status/2006882728428315135)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,708 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    If someone is taking X4 times the recommended daily dose of aspirin for blood clotting risks they should in fact be on a daily maintenance dose of something like Xeralto/Rivaroxaban instead.

    All that Aspirin could damage his kidneys. Wouldn't that be a shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The trouble is, he always lies about everything. Who knows what he is actually taking? He dictates the medical reports his doctors release. Heck, apparently the scan he had was a CT scan, yet his doctor called it an MRI. Two very different things. CT scan leads me to believe he had a stroke.

    I strongly doubt his doctor will clarify whether it was indeed a CT scan and what it showed and why said doctor reported it originally as an MRI. Didn't he know?

    (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5669120-trump-health-scan-results/)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I don't know how lying bastards like that can even look at themselves in the mirror.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Edit: Mamdani has just revoked pro-Israel Executive Orders signed by previous Mayor Eric Adams.

    The EO's revoked include one that adopts the IHRA definition of antisemitism that equates some criticisms of Israel with anti-semitism. Another one that he revoked was banning NY city agencies from divesting from Israel.

    Bravo I say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I see Trump is threatening Iran if it kills protesters.

    Does anyone find this surprising as I would have naturally assumed he would be a fan of "hard justice" ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Lying would almost be decent, as at least she'd have to care about the truth in order to deny it. She just seems to spout bullshit, with no care for the truth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,315 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have a relative who 'doesn't believe in' mainstream medication - except when they need antibiotics or similar, but long term illness, no that's not a good idea. They don't need any long term meds, I suspect there would be a Pauline conversion if they did.

    There are several heart conditions including atrial fibrillation (irregular heart beat, which is very likely to cause stroke) which necessitate 'thinners'. Which are not thinners at all, just reduce the risk of clotting. You don't have to have 'bad' arteries.

    What you do not do is self-medicate with incorrect amounts of aspirin. But he knows best, no one knows more about blood than him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Part of me genuinely wonders if they actually believe it themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,104 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Maybe just let him have any drugs he thinks he needs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Don Jnr will be "working hard" on somehow branding an aspirin



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