Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

GiftofGab · 29-12-2025 04:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124101802#Comment_124101802

Also let's not forget that we already have a tall CB in Leoni. I believe he's 6ft 5.

Agreed - we need a CB in January and another in the summer to replace Gomez. Plus a tall, strong, dominant DM in the summer.

riddles · 29-12-2025 05:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124101978#Comment_124101978

Liverpool conceded a total of 9 goals last season from set pieces, as of late December 2025, they have already conceded 12 goals from set-play situations—the highest in the league.

theoneeyedman · 29-12-2025 10:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124102156#Comment_124102156

It is worth noting the league has changed, setpieces are a big part of most teams attack now, whereas a year or 2 ago it wasn't. We haven't adapted, which is what you are seeing here I'd say - what % of setpieces goals has changed overall I wonder?

Leoni…i saw 45 minutes of him and he looks good, but he's a kid, and anything we got out of him this season was a bonus IMHO, we should not have been banking on him as a starter, and that was before his injury. What we get from him NEXT season is now a bonus.

We have 2 fully functioning CBs at present.

machiavellianme · 29-12-2025 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124102762#Comment_124102762

We have 1 fully functioning CB. And a Konate. I've no idea how to describe him but it's not fully functioning anyway.

theoneeyedman · 29-12-2025 11:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124102804#Comment_124102804

I agree I guess, but to be fair he had a good season last year so I can allow for them planning on him being OK this season too. Gomez and Leoni could not be relied on IMHO, and unfortunately that's how it worked out.

OwaynOTT · 29-12-2025 11:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124101529#Comment_124101529

does Guehi have the same options to pass to as Ibra, probably not so that is likely affecting his stats. Palace would be under more pressure consistently throughout the game and then likely making more less optimal passes. This is the thing with these stats, they are quantitative and often ignore the qualitative side.
what I did note was the Guehi made more forward passes.

theoneeyedman · 29-12-2025 11:33PM

I haven't see much of Palace TBH, but all I'm doing is warning not to believe any stats that would suggest Ibra is a good passer or good on the ball, , when the eye test clearly tells you he's not.

What I've seen of palace though it's that they tend to pass more vertical or direct than Liverpool.

OwaynOTT · 29-12-2025 11:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124102868#Comment_124102868

exactly, which would lower your pass accuracy

boosabum · 30-12-2025 12:17PM

Joyce saying Briggs is gone

Foreign Sports · 30-12-2025 01:09PM

Who's he, the set piece coach?

No harm, they need to sort it ASAP

Appletart Upsetter · 30-12-2025 01:24PM

https://share.google/mt02loFuFSWdqK54y

Is a club statement necessary for this?

I hope they have someone lined up with a proven track record! €15 million bid on the way for Nicolas Jover?

machiavellianme · 30-12-2025 01:24PM

An inanimate carbon rod would be better as a set piece coach. Bring back Johnny Heitinga (never thought I'd be saying that)

Fitz* · 30-12-2025 01:34PM

Small bit harsh on Briggs as he wasn't hired as a set piece coach, but was given that role. Performed badly in that role so he had to go really.

Robert2014 · 30-12-2025 01:35PM

Think they needed to make a change. It may be symbolic but the players and fans needed to see something change. If they go a couple of games without conceding from a set piece, hopefully confidence will come back in this area.

Dr Robert · 30-12-2025 02:59PM

How many of our goals conceded this season have been directly from set pieces? Not too many AFAIK. Mostly, its when when the ball breaks from a clearance or knock on. That falls into the basic defending bucket imo.

It's a bit of a PR stunt sacking Briggs but something had to done I suppose, or seen to be done.

riddles · 30-12-2025 06:07PM

This is the first assistant manager Sipke Hulshoff is a highly experienced Dutch coach who has become Arne Slot’s most trusted lieutenant. Their partnership is the foundation of Liverpool’s current tactical identity, as they have worked together across three different clubs over the last decade.

Here is a breakdown of his coaching journey and why he is so central to the Liverpool setup:

1. The Partnership with Arne Slot

Hulshoff and Slot first crossed paths in 2016 at SC Cambuur. When the head coach was fired mid-season, the duo took over as "interim co-managers" and achieved such impressive results that they were given the jobs permanently.

The "Slot-Hulshoff" Dynamics: While Slot is the public-facing manager and chief strategist, Hulshoff is known as the "field coach." He is responsible for translating Slot’s complex tactical theories into the high-intensity training sessions you see at the AXA Training Centre

machiavellianme · 30-12-2025 06:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124103717#Comment_124103717

We've conceded 12 from set pieces. Every time we give away a needless corner, we seem to leak one in. Not sure what games you've been watching but we're rubbish at them.

Dr Robert · 30-12-2025 07:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124104096#Comment_124104096

Read my post again. I remember very few direct headers /shots from a set piece. I remember plenty of knock-ons and second balls. A lot of basic defending.

Are we saying that the set is piece coach is at fault for basic defending mistakes now? Passing the buck..

Hey, maybe we'll all of a sudden see a huge improvement in those types of goals conceded. Hopefully. If not, maybe the actual culprits will own up!

Appletart Upsetter · 30-12-2025 07:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124104358#Comment_124104358

I assume he has responsibility for the second and third phases of defensive set pieces. But I agree, that should really be the remit of the players.

He wasn't setting the world on fire offensively so there's that too.

Slot has spoken so often about the issues around set pieces this season, he made his position untenable. I'm never quite sure if this is just his Dutch manner or it's deliberate.

Dr Robert · 30-12-2025 08:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124104384#Comment_124104384

For the record, I'm not defending the guy, just pointing it out. He seems a convenient scapegoat. For me it's Slot and the players that should be taking the vast majority of the blame.

Appletart Upsetter · 30-12-2025 08:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124104398#Comment_124104398

Absolutely.

They never react first to second balls from corners. As you've said, the don't usually concede directly. It's a little like the lackadaisical starts to the second half. Is that Slots fault or the players responsibility? Probably a bit of both.

~Rebel~ · 30-12-2025 08:38PM

A big part of opponent's planned set pieces is based around the second ball and breakdown too though… that whole phase until the ball is actually under someone's control is all the remit of the set piece guy. so I wouldn't absolve him much of most of the ones we've conceded, and the myriad other times where we've looked in a panic and just about about gotten by. We always seem utterly reactive, while the opponent's always look like they're moving to second balls with intent and expectation.

Electric Nitwit · 30-12-2025 10:25PM

As we're all discussing our shortcomings, Arsenal score from yet another set piece

TitianGerm · 30-12-2025 10:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124104898#Comment_124104898

Massive mistake from the keeper more than good play from a set piece.

IrishOwl... · 30-12-2025 10:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124104358#Comment_124104358

Yes it definitely falls into a grey area. No one but the individuals should be taken blame for some of the goals Liverpool have conceded from set pieces this season. Some absolute shambolic defending on show.

Appletart Upsetter · 30-12-2025 10:53PM

Looking at Arsenal, you can see the importance of set pieces these days. Second best in the first half but score from their first corner and the whole game changes. We've had the opposite situation occuring to us all season.

First of all we've got to defend them properly. From an attacking stand point, what Arsenal do really well is their delivery is the best in the league. Then it's about aggression and desire in the box (same as defending). I don't think it's that complicated.

brevity · 30-12-2025 11:00PM

feels like a big win for arsenal.

Dr Robert · 30-12-2025 11:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124105130#Comment_124105130

More like a big loss for Villa imo. It'll be an Arsenal and City race to the end.

dogbert27 · 30-12-2025 11:02PM

It's also how the players are set up to defend the corners which is on the set piece coach.

Gravenberch's position heading the ball back down in to the six yard box for Sarr to score against Crystal Palace and it happened again against another team I can't remember with someone else.

I can't remember the last time one of the goalkeepers actually came out and claimed a corner ball. Was this something to do with the set piece coaching tactics?

Leeds last minute equaliser with no one picking up the player at the back because they were in their "coached" positions.

We have been abysmal all season at set pieces and I have no sympathy for Briggs as he was hired as a player development coach who talked his way in to the job of set piece coach.

Conceding from set pieces has actually killed our season

dogbert27 · 30-12-2025 11:03PM

Balls, I knew United would score

Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

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​1. The Partnership with Arne Slot

1. The Partnership with Arne Slot