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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,013 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Show us some proof that the money being sent to Ukraine for defence is actually being spent on a ski resort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    I said spending money on a Ski resort while the country's leader is off around the world begging money is ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,507 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: @mulbot don't post in this thread again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Alias G


    If Ukraine was 'begging' to fund a ski resort you would have a point. But they are not. And you don't.

    Should all economic activity in western ukraine come to a halt because large parts of eastern Ukraine are an active war zone? Life goes on througout much of the country despite russian efforts to destroy the place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Biletsky says that for the first time ever, the Russian army is not replenishing its losses - more soldiers are being eliminated than are being brought in.Moreover, they are in a catastrophic situation with their weaponry - armored vehicles,

    That sounds good, but I am concerned at the same time. The kremlin is claiming a 400K force that has never fought in Ukraine has been assembled to threaten the baltic states. This might explain those comments. I have been thinking that would be utter madness, and dismissed it, given he can't take Ukraine, and thought it was likely complete nonsense and a bluff.

    Unfortunately, I can see a crazy logic to it. If he invades a Baltic state and gains a foothold, he's then got hundreds of thousands, or millions, of EU citizens as hostages and could demand that the EU stop all assistance to Ukraine or he'll slaughter them.

    Unfortunately I think the EU would capitulate entirely as they are hopelessly weak-willed. He might be pushing to do this imminently as there are reports of intense winter training going on and the EU is utterly unprepared and hasn't established the drone defences envisaged, yet - also likely to be a factor in any calculations.. The Orcs have a drone warfare equipped force while no one in the EU is close to having what would be necessary to resist such.

    This would explain all the probing of reactions and defences with the aerial incursions by planes and drones, because the first move would be a very sudden wave of drones and possibly fighters, to take out planes on the ground, which given the ridiculous hesitancy to shoot displayed by every EU country probed so far, would likely be a complete success.

    Perhaps the Baltic states ought to pull back their fighters to alternative EU Bases. The US is effectively out of NATO and wouldn't lift a finger if such were to happen. European NATO countries might have a paper superiority, but if the Orcs moved very fast and seized a lot of territory, the hostage threat would render that meaningless as I can't see the EU/NATO doing anything other than instantly capitulating to all demands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Approaching €4,000, so far.

    3rd Regiment of SOF, GUR, "Chimera" unit, 92nd Brigade, 35th Marine Corps Brigade - €100

    81st — DJI Mavic 3T - €54

    Gimli Division 9 fibre drones - €120

    Ambulansseja Ukrainaan ry - €60

    Десантникам 25-ки потрібні - €50

    Motorola walkie-talkies DP4400e - €100

    Thermal sights Bakhmut - €100

    Central Bank Ukraine 28-2-22 - €600

    Etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Slava_Ukraine


    Brilliant Cnocbui. I give my donations (plus many from other friends and family) to a friend we know well out there who puts it to very good use.

    I love to think about not only the Orc scum it helps eliminate, but also the injured warriors.

    Post edited by Slava_Ukraine on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭BKtje


    I can't see the EU and EU NATO countries standing by if an EU/NATO country was invaded. You would have boots on the ground and jets in the air immediately. I can't see the US doing nothing either if NATO was invaded; limited perhaps, but something would happen. If the US wants any allies when China comes calling, they'll need to keep current commitments.

    Even without the US, other NATO countries would come to the Baltics' aid. Over 200 jets could be in the air within hours from Poland, Sweden, Finland, and other nearby NATO members. This would be Ukraine's wish coming true, as I doubt these NATO countries would stop at merely retaking the Baltics. They would start hitting targets inside Russia (finishing what Ukraine started with oil refineries) to eliminate Russia's ability to threaten the Baltics or any other country again.

    Russian air defences would be quickly overwhelmed by NATO technology and numbers, even without US involvement. Russia would have too few jets protecting too much airspace. Those naval vessels currently "barricaded" in port would be rapidly sunk, and all war infrastructure within easy reach of NATO countries would be destroyed. Russia would lose the Baltics and then lose Ukraine as their military collapsed. I don't think we'd see a NATO ground invasion of Russia itself as those nukes remain an ever-present threat.

    The EU has far more soft power than Ukraine and thus access to many more allies, even if only for arms shipments (where the EU is currently lacking). I don't see any scenario where Russia would survive in its current form. Not to mention that once the EU is at war with Russia, those billions in frozen assets would be immediately confiscated. When you're at war, civil agreements go out the window. Good luck suing an enemy you're actively fighting!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,317 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,384 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The Baltic States don’t have any of their own fighter jets. They rely on the continual NATO Baltic Air Policing mission. (Which the Americans just funded for another 2 years)

    The fighter jets currently on station in Estonia are Italian Typhoons (and F35’s earlier in the rotation).

    Those in Sialuiai, Lithuania (covering Lithuania & Latvia) are Spanish EuroFighter Typhoons.

    Earlier this year it was Dutch F35’s & Portuguese, Polish & Romanian F16’s

    Every other day of the week there’s American heavy metal on the ground somewhere in the Baltic’s..

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    So whatever fighters the the Russians take out, won’t be native Baltic fighters.
    The great thing about the Baltic Air Policing mission is that all the European NATO partners get valuable real world experience in policing the skies where Russians regularly fly, so they get the experience of ‘playing the game’ in a real world scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Nah if he invades a Baltic state NATO cruise missiles Will force what's left of the Russian air force to the far East in a Day. Their European Navy will be deleted and many of their remaining ammo depots. Their weakened air defence will get hit hard and their tankers on the euro side will stop immediately.

    It'll mean he either retreats quickly with a bloody nose or will have to pull his army out of Ukraine to fight this new war. It's never gonna happen. All focus will be on Ukraine. I bet you he still dreams of taking all of Ukraine, then Moldova would be easy pickings and then after conscripting Ukrainians he might tackle the Baltic's.

    The current threats are just to stop certain EU countries sending too much aid to Ukraine because they fear it might be needed to defend against Russia.

    Can I just say the defense of kupyansk will go down in the history books. 2 years they held a sizable pocket protecting the Eastern side and when the Russians got close in the north they allowed them waste at least 6 month's and a lot of men/resources crossing the river to attack from the western side. A trap that has bloodied the Russian pride who'll now have to regroup and think of another long term plan for that city.

    The recapture of kupyansk in 2023 was one of the most important moments of this war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Can I just say the defense of kupyansk will go down in the history books. 2 years they held a sizable pocket protecting the Eastern side and when the Russians got close in the north they allowed them waste at least 6 month's and a lot of men/resources crossing the river to attack from the western side. A trap that has bloodied the Russian pride who'll now have to regroup and think of another long term plan for that city.

    The recapture of kupyansk in 2023 was one of the most important moments of this war. I didn't believe it 2 month's ago but I'm starting to think this city will still be Ukrainian come the end of 2026.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Yeah, but if the Kremlin claims they have 400k extra troops hidden somewhere, the chances of that being true are low. You can be certain the real number is something else.

    Also, if Russia were to invade the Baltics, it's not like it is a scenario no-one has ever thought about or planned against. Any defence forces located in a country next to Russia train and prepare for one thing - a Russian invasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The teachers in Russia are calling for a warning strike on 12th of January.

    Putin's government have been cutting wages of the teachers to pay for the war abroad in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Putin's pet project Rusich had their commander give lessons on courage to students in St.Petersburg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The name Malcolm Caldwell appeared online to me in the last few minutes.

    Malcolm if he was reborn would definitely be a Putin supporter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You all are right. The scenario was constructed to explain why the Orcs would allow the situation to deteriorate in Ukraine while having 350,000 'spare' troops in Belarus.

    It turns out Lithuanian intelligence has vehemently refuted the allegation of there being such a large force in Belarus, saying they don't exist, so the whole thing is moot and there is not a chance of it happening.

    Which leaves me being very glad at being mislead, because it means the Orcs not replacing their meat that's getting hosed at a 8/9:1 ratio indicates they likely can't replace them so they are really stuffed.

    Apologies, I should have checked the central claim first, but I was a bit busy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Excuse me for being sceptical.?? What is in it for you .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,535 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,934 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    They can barely feed the troops in the Ukraine. How are they feeding 400k more somewhere else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I think the main danger of it is Putin believing all of his own hype again (as happened with Ukraine invasion), that he can gamble big and succeed.

    The goal would be to do some test of NATO that shows all the European countries that were relying in it for security it is ultimately hollow and can't protect them, and grab a little bit more territory back that he has always believed should be under Russia's rule (parts of Baltic states probably).

    Very possible the US is on the sidelines (at best!) while under MAGA governance, so the next 3 years at least.

    Likelyhood of this scenario (a serious Russian test of NATO) happening increases IMO, the more pro Russia/anti EU governments there are in power in the EU, and in Europe.

    It will strengthen Putin's conviction that Europe is weak, riven by political differences (I think he will credit his own/China's propaganda and spying efforts with a lot of that - a further confidence booster), and will therefore find it impossible to respond effectively in a crisis provoked by Russia.

    Unfortunately the de facto pro Russian parties in the UK, France and even in Poland (which is nuts to me) are performing well in the polls currently also, despite all the evidence of how corrupt and compromised they are available to anyone paying attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    I watched it and it’s an excellent documentary. It’s not pro Russian, the fighters either outright say they are fighting for money or they were tricked by propaganda to volenteer. The only soldier who can even form a coherent (but still incorrect) argument for the Russian war effort is the Ukrainian fighting for Russia and he is then shown deserting his division before they go to Bakhmut because he hadn’t been paid for 2 months. The documentary shows a totally disillusioned Russian force.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Ukraine seems to have launched a counter attack around Pokrovsk

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Another russian general has died

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Mixed news today for Ukraine.

    Reports from Ukraine (RFU) says Ukraine has liberated 5 villages in Dnipropetrovsk after 100 days fighting over them.

    On the other hand, Skruffy on YouTube says Russia has advanced out of Vovchansk into the green area, and around Huliapole. Huliapole is in the South in Zaporizhia region.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Huliapole seems to have been a disaster with Russians capturing UAF command posts intact with plans, gear, radios, etc. They'll need to reinforce the area and quick to push them back out again

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    I can't get my head around the number of Russians conscripts and "volunteers" that put their own money into buying basic necessities like fuel for their scoobydoo van or spare parts for a drone. Surely you'd tell your commander if he couldn't organise a fill of petrol for the old banger, you'd have to carry the supplies on foot - which you'd be quite prepared to do, but it'd obviously take a lot longer to get to the frontline.

    So much of what goes on on the Russian side makes no sense whatsover … but it's obviously endemic (and contagious, seeing as it's spread to the Russians in the White House)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    That 400K number was in error and no where near that, more like 100-150K. Is also guess a chunk of those are actually Belarusian conscripts with different badges.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Ukraine says it's not in the town itself but surrounding fields that are contested.



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