General British politics discussion thread

It was the decision of the right wing Starmer government to proscribe PA as a 'terrorist' organisation and insinuate that its members pose a serious threat to civil society. Had this not happened, it's unlikely that a large number of them wouldn't even be on remand now.

Some eminent legal experts have argued that the decision to proscribe them was an extraordinary and outrageous misuse of the UK Terrorism Act 2000.

how can breaking in to private property, carrying out criminal damage and assaulting police officers be anything but illegal?

Some people live in a parallel universe.

Breaking and entering 🤣

Are you saying that the only reason they have been arrested is because the government is under the influence of their Zionist overlords (or Kier Starmers wife as some posters seem to think)

It what world would these people not have been arrested?

so what’s the problem? Do illegal stuff, get caught, get punished.

of course I get it.
why should people who do it get special treatment though?

oh I get all of that. It is another form of protest. (And a pointless one at that, what exactly do they think is going to happen).
that’s why I think they need to cop on and stop putting their families through this pointless pain.

Rejoining the customs union definitely back on the agenda, as is Streeting's leadership challenge:-

The Times and The Sunday Times on X: "Wes Streeting has defied Sir Keir Starmer and suggested Britain should join a customs union with Europe, as a poll for The Times shows eight out of ten Labour voters support the move https://t.co/2lZGi72iXG" / X

In an interview with the Observer, Steeting said:-

‘We’re not going to win the next election by trying to out-Reform Reform. That’s not who we are. Those aren’t our values and we’ve got to beat them, not join them.’ * He said Britain has taken a ‘massive economic hit’ from Brexit. ‘I’m really uncomfortable with the level of taxation in this country. We’re asking a lot of individual taxpayers, we’re asking a lot of businesses. We’ve got a level of indebtedness that we need to take very seriously. The best way for us to get more growth into our economy is a deeper trading relationship with the EU’

Would the person being beaten to death happen to be Israeli?

How exactly is the UK government aiding Israel in its genocide?

This goes back to what I said in an earlier post, people are using the ongoing situation in Gaza to further their own agendas. SF supporters are animated about the UK still trading with Israel (which includes components being used to build military systems) yet aren’t animated about the Irish governments ongoing trade with Israel (which includes deals with Israeli arms companies) the answer is simple, that doesn’t further SF’s agenda.
We are in the middle of the largest rearmament programme in Europe since the Cold War and, as unsavory as that may be, Israeli owned firms are very much a critical part of that. Israeli tech is everywhere, even in the new Casa aircraft the Irish air corp is buying, not to mention drones used by the Irish military and I would guarantee that the new radar the government promised from Thales also contains tech built by Israeli owned companies.
a lot of that tech (the European sky shield for example) will most likely be assembled in Israel using components sourced from all over Europe, but is then exported back to Europe for deployment. That is not supporting the Israeli military in their ongoing genocide, it is a simple fact about global politics at the moment.

people believe what they want to believe and create a narrative ( like an RAF voyager refueling the F35s that attacked Qatar) despite who factuallynincorrect, or even impossible it is.

It is a narrative created to support the actions of people who are plain anarchists and willl do whatever they can to disrupt anything to do with either the arms trade or globalization. Not to mention those that just simply despise the west and want to project their own hatred and use this as an excuse.

and for many, it simply means they support the right for Israel to exist.
the UK government has never altered from its long term policy (regardless of which party is in power) of a two state solution and the recent recognition of Palestine and the type of Zionism you are talking about are not compatible

Funny how they don't say that though, isn't it. None of these "unapologetic Zionists" ever qualify their "unapologetic Zionism".

How do you view criminals like Netanyahu?

Yes Hamas and Hezbollah are getting retconned into nice "freedom fighters" these days. I think the vast majority aren't buying it.