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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I just completely disagree with you, especially the focus on military and force to the exclusion of every facet of civil liberties. I think history since 1945 proves my point. There’s this idea that if you laud the EU you must be saying that it’s without fault and that all of its initiatives are a success, which is nonsense. It’s simply the best example of how the world should be governed. It’s a discussion for another thread really though as going off topic now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭zv2


    As Churchill said - "Democracy is the worst kind of government, apart from all those kinds."

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    And are functionally pointless without Ukraine or Europe present.

    Just another exercise designed to make Europe & Kyiv’s involvement in all of this appear as minimal as possible…despite Ukrainian and European approval being key to pretty much everything.

    Donnie’s acolytes (his Saudi-friendly son in law, and a Putin-appointed toadie) will have a pleasant chat with them, accept the latest Yandex-translated skuttle as a proposal that everyone else will likely reject regardless.

    The Russians are running desperate at this stage, hoping to hoodwink Donnie and enough others to accept an agreement that will save the Kremlin from the wall they are destined to slam into.

    If they had any wits about them at all, they’d offer to withdraw to the 1991 border and ask for sanctions to end. That’s really their only hope to avoid a collapse…and even in that scenario they’d need help from Western Europe to prop them up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭midlander12


    It's off-thread but my reference to 'women' related only to the people thinking Islamic dress codes applied in parts of London.

    As regards low-immigration areas voting Reform, the lowest foreign-born populations (10% or less) are in the north-east, east, coastal East Anglia, the south-west and Wales. Apart from the south-west these are Reform's strongholds. The areas with the greatest concentrations (London and around) are Reform's weakest areas.

    Country of birth - Census Maps, ONS



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    normally when one wants to try and reach a successful conclusion between two ‘waring ‘ factions one uses a facilitator who keeps neutral between both sides , be totally independant of both sides and has no ‘hidden agendas’ - at least that is the case in Ireland. So why is S. Bircoff used in the negotiations to try and resolve the issues. Ukr was never asked to agree to him , he is of Russian parents , has met with Putin many more times that he has met with Zalenskys, speaks fluent Russian - a double edged sword.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Let's hope Trump is entering his lame duck period and it is just a question of humouring him until his influence on foreign policy wanes -and nursing Ukraine until America becomes at least an honest broker rather than a war vulture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    If they ONLY MOVE in the night time and remain stationary during the day the Ukr army would never suspect that they are tanks as long as they don’t fire. Just a thought!!!!!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    This idea of Putin meeting some of the EU leaders- of course he will agree to it just to prove to Donnie that he is , apparently, genuinely interested in peace. All of this is on for Putin on one condition and that is that he is allowed to bang and bomb away. Another deflection that suits both sides. IMO only solution is to force Putin back to the @2014 border



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Russia has accelerated its military planning and may be ready to launch direct aggression against European countries as early as 2027, according to Kyrylo Budanov, the head of Ukraine’s military intelligence.

    Budanov stated that Moscow had originally planned to begin open confrontation with NATO states closer to 2030. However, recent intelligence assessments indicate that this timeline has been revised and significantly shortened.

    According to him, Russia’s primary objective would be the occupation of the Baltic states — Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Such a move would directly test NATO’s collective defense commitments and fundamentally reshape European security.

    Poland, in contrast, is viewed differently by Moscow. Budanov noted that Russia does not plan to occupy Polish territory, but instead sees Poland as a target for large-scale military strikes, likely aimed at logistics hubs, infrastructure, and NATO supply routes.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    On Thursday an Ariane 6 launched two Galileo GPS satellites.

    That means since 1996 there have been 254 Solid Rocket Booster launches. With 0 SRB failures.

    Take a wild fúcking guess what the French subs use to launch their nukes.

    The UK use completely different systems with completely different re-entry decoys. If Radio 4 had stayed off air for any length of time 85% of Moscow would too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Countess Alexandra Tolstoy talks about her ex-partner's life around Putin. New documentary on it on Netflix.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Europe not exactly listening to the degenerate US.

    Well done Sweden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Some twitter posters, usually reliable,

    Reporting the Ukrainians are back in Chasiv Yar. Wonder if it's true

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Concerning, Cauldron, Fog of War, Elastic Band Snapping. Am I missing any?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Very concerning- time will tell /s

    This Russian oil tanker is in the process of being promoted to submarine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,901 ✭✭✭threeball


    Those same rules its tied up in eliminates the risk of a Trump like situation in the EU. Being slow to react isn't always a negative.

    Plus if you don't know how it could never be an empire under the current iteration then you need to educate yourself. Europe is not designed to project power, Europe is not designed to be the reserve currency, Europe is not designed to reach concensus easily and generally won't unless faced with an existential threat like the 2008 crash or Russian aggression. They are actually positives to the EU rather than negatives. No President/king deciding the direction of the union.

    When all is said and done, I see the EU and China being the two pillars in the world within the next 15years. The American empire will fade over time before crashing heavily. Russia will disintegrate. The west will move closer to the EU, the east will become China. Europe will have mineral supplies from Canada, Australia, Russia and Ukraine. And our non aggressive posture will mean we will have strong relations with all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Lemmie see here (flips through notes). Erm… «I hope they’ll be withdrawn before it’s too late»

    «They should get their white flags ready» «The Russians should just give territory to save lives»

    It's been a while…I’m a little rusty :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    The American empire ain't going anywhere.

    They have everything to continue being successful and powerful. Resources, food production, education, innovation, institutions, security etc...

    In terms of the future of other places in the world, look up fertility rates for countries.

    China, South Korea and Japan look screwed.

    Europe will take in immigrants to fill gaps.

    Russia screwed also demographically.

    Also the transition from oil will accelerate in next few years.

    I think we're very close to peak oil consumption. USA, EU and China are past peak oil consumption.

    This will affect the economies of anyone reliant on oil for revenue.

    25% of new cars are EVs globally.

    By 2035 this will be > 90%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,901 ✭✭✭threeball


    China controls the EV and battery markets. They've just reverse engineered the machinery to make their own superconductor chips.

    America is $32trn in debt, on the brink of recession, have fallen out with all the countries who had their back to cozy up to dictators. Canada have diversified to other markets. Central and south America have zero trust in them and their imperial notions. Brics are hoarding gold and silver, driving up the price, which results in alot of paper investors looking to cash out. The banks don't have as much metal as they have metal sold. The empire is cooked. Not today or tomorrow but by the time the mid 2030s rolls around you'll see a much diminished US of A.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Anyone can make EVs and batteries. It's a simple technology.

    China just do it cheaper.

    The US has loads of fertile arable land, oil, gas and other resources.

    Has very high levels of education, innovation, technology companies, AI etc..

    They've the best military in the world which they don't actually need since nobody will invade them anyway.

    They've the best space companies.

    I'd be more worried about China.

    Their demographics are screwed.

    They've an unsolvable housing and construction crisis.

    Their economy has slowed down.

    From 2030 their working population will go into steep decline.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/1nblcab/chinas_working_age_population_forecast/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,901 ✭✭✭threeball


    In a world where spending power is being eroded by inflation and quantitive easing every year, cheap is all the matters. No one can afford European electric cars and America is getting out of the electric car game. Ford just announced they're abandoning electric.

    They're putting their farmers out of business and transferring the land to billionaires. Education is crap for the vast majority as evidenced by MAGA. They no longer want immigrants who make up a huge part of their innovation. AI is a bubble where only one company will win, likely Google. The rest could go under such is the level of investment.

    And outside of satellites, space exploration is nothing more than a dick waving competition. The only reason they went to the moon in the first place was to prevent the Russian's getting the Kudos. They havent been back since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Anyone who thinks America is going to fade away as a power is deluded. Especially if they send less money abroad and keep it for American investments instead. They'll be an absolute powerhouse as long as we live and thanks to democracy they won't always have a **** like Trump so we'll be happy they remain a top power when a sounder president is elected next.

    Europe I believe has a good future but the people don't want more 3rd world immigrants so this will eventually change. I believe whatever is still free from Ukraine after this war will eventually join Europe and this will solve a lot of issues the EU has both in terms of wanting more workers and natural resources.

    Back to the war though Siversk has fallen to the Russians without much hassle which is disappointing. Next stop is Slovyansk about 28km away. It'll be worth keeping an eye on Russia's rate of advancement towards this city next year. It'll be protected by swamplands to the north end a largish river which runs through it's East side.

    My hope is Russia don't make it to the gates next year. That is a depressing thought. But if they do I really hope this city unlike Toretsk, Bakhmut etc will never fall and will spell the eventually end of this Russian invasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Reports of another Russian war crime. They have kidnapped 50 villagers from Firabovsk, Sumy region and deported them to Russia. This village is far away from the stated Russian goals in Sumy, so it must have been an infiltration team. They are also using infiltration tactics in Kharkiv but this time it failed.

    Also, in Kupiansk sector, Ukraine has pushed Russian drone operators from the Western Bank of the River Oskill to the Eastern Bank. The River divides the city.

    Screenshot 2025-12-22 032019.png

    I think one of the reasons Ukraine is fighting so hard in Pokrovsk is it has a road to Chasiv Yar, which could be cut off if Pokrovsk fell. I think the important thing in this context is the road. Also the railway. Most maps show the Russians have been just south of the railway.

    Its not just about cities its also about rail and road junctions. Even if Ukraine may not be in a position to use them at the moment, denying or frustration the enemy's use of them is important too.

    Pokrovsk would not be in danger if Avdiivka had not fallen, and that was during the 9 months when Trump and Johnson were blocking a vote on aid.

    Chasiv Yar has high ground, which would have been useful to prevent Russia getting to Pokrovsk if Avdiivka not fallen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Ukraine's demographics are screwed so won't be much use for workers.

    Ukraine will be a drain on the EU if they get peace unfortunately but we should still help them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    It took Russia 41 months to capture Siversk.

    Map of the timeframe:

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    ISW says:

    Russian forces have likely seized Siversk — a town with a pre-war population of less than 11,000 — after 41 months of fighting. Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets reported on December 21 that Russian forces completed the seizure of Siversk, advanced to heights west and northwest of Siversk, and reached the chalk quarry west of Siversk.[31] Mashovets reported that Russian forces also made tactical gains north of Svyato-Pokrovske and seized Fedorivka and Vasyukivka (all southwest of Siversk) since mid-November 2025.[32] The Kremlin claimed that Russian forces seized Siversk as of December 11, and Russian President Vladimir Putin and senior Russian defense officials have since been using the seizure of the town to promote the false narrative that Ukrainian lines are collapsing and that Russian forces are capable of immediately threatening Slovyansk.[33] The Russian efforts in the Siversk direction have been extremely lengthy, especially given that Siversk has an area of about 10 square kilometers with a pre-war population of about 11,000. Russian forces took 41 months to advance roughly 12 kilometers from Lysychansk (east of Siversk) to the western administrative boundary of Siversk.[34] Ukrainian resistance significantly delayed Russian efforts on the approaches to Siversk: ISW assesses that Russian forces seized Verkhnokamyanske (about four kilometers east of Siversk) as of October 9, 2024, Bilohorivka (about 10 kilometers northeast of Siversk) as of February 23, 2025, and Serebryanka (about four kilometers northeast of Siversk) as of August 16, 2025.[35] ISW first observed evidence that Russian forces entered Siversk’s town limits no later than November 18, indicating that Russian forces likely took 33 days to completely seize the town (with an area of three Central Parks) once entering it.[36] Russian forces must still advance the 30 kilometers from Siversk to Slovyansk and complete the seizure of Lyman before they can begin a direct assault on Slovyansk itself.[37] The Kremlin has been exaggerating the immediate implications of the seizure of Siversk in attempts to falsely portray Russian forces as imminently threatening the northern part of the Fortress Belt and making significant simultaneous advances across the theater, such that the frontline is imminently collapsing. Russian gains continue to be slow and grinding as they have been for the past two years.



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