WFH is dead and buried. Right to WFH bill is pointless

Ireland has the highest WFH or "blended" working in Europe.

We dont.

What people want is dublin salaries but to live outside Dublin and work remotely, no problem wanting that but you cant really be annoyed when its no longer possible either.

Source?

Personally I'm in the "WFH is good for for many , but comes with significant risks that need to be managed: Be careful what you wish for" camp. (Not a brigade, that's a nasty militaristic idea)

I'm also in the "cycling is a distraction from the real task of providing good shared transport and fully livable neighbourhoods which include housing and jobs" camp.

And the "bedrooms are for sleeping in, not work in" camp.

This proves Im not wrong, Ireland has among the highest WFH percentages in Europe way above everyone else @TaurenDruid

You originally said it was the "highest" and now it's way above "everyone else".

But in your graphic it's in 2nd place.

To be fair it's orders of magnitude higher than almost everywhere else on that chart.

Ireland is a big tech and pharma hub with no manufacturing to speak of. It's not Ireland manufactures cars, or iPhones or Aeroplanes.

Wasn't the point of this to prove WFH was ending and everyone would be RTO in 2024, no 2025, no 2026.... Maybe 2027.

point of what? this thread?

WFH still has its advantages but given I’m in work a couple of days each week, I can see strong benefits of coming together as a team too - for me and the nature of work I do, this blend is perfect right now.

Where I could see WFH challenging, is where you have less experienced staff joining the team - it’s far less stressful for them if they’re surrounded by team members and can reach out for help in a natural way, when required. Team calls are fine but there are relationship and team building nuances that work much better in a face to face setting.

I’d hate to see WFH completely eradicated but I’m also not in favour of WFH 100% of the time for office based work.

Dublin traffic though is now officially appalling for most of the day and public transport is under severe strain for many routes - I’d hate to see what it would be like if all workers were back 5 days a week

You are correct about the challenges of WFH - integrating new team members. That is the issue behind employers pushing for RTO. Turnover in some areas - civil service for example - is less than others, so different sectors and different employers will have different attitudes. Expect the rate of WFH to fluctuate even within employments in the future and be tied more closely to the nature of the work in particular to how well a team can work together.

Even this thread which contains so many different views on how it is working backs up the notion of more variance, as most of the views on either side are informed by widely different personal experience.

You must not spend a lot of time on the quays as there are thousands of bikes using those cycle lanes on a daily basis.

But it should be possible, dragging people back into offices who have been remote or full RTO for people who have been hybrid just shouldn’t be happening as none of the reasons given hold any weight it’s old fashioned backwards management, people wanting “control” or simply people with the sitting in an office = working mentality.

Many businesses are embracing the fact they can hire all over Ireland also it’s not just Dublin, people should in this day and age be able to live where they want and work for someone anywhere in Ireland or the world (in office/desk based jobs).

look at the poster most recently discussing his situation - what benefit to anyone be it the poster, his colleagues, other commuters or the environment is it for him to commute 3.5 hours to sit at a hot desk and be on calls all day.