Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

Thinking of switching from a Day/Night/Peak rate with Energia to a 24hr tariff with Flogas fixed for 12 months @ 0.2256 incl. vat per kWh.

Energy Pal and Kilowatt think the regular 24hr tariffs suit my use rather than the Day/Night/Peak rates.

Question is has anyone seen any better than 0.2256 rate from any other supplier and secondly is fixed a good idea or is there a chance prices will drop again next year but I'll be locked in and won't get the reduction ?

Tia

I don't see any cheaper plans out there. I'm on their BWG 23.44c fixed, or so I thought, the latest bill has seen both a rise in unit rates and standing charge, they also have me on monthly billing which I never requested. I've a terrible dose on me at the moment and really don't have the energy to be dealing with call centres....

I would say that's about right. You would need to be able to shift some normal day or peak time units to night rate to make any real savings. For me, once TV is off, my night time usage is negligible.

Are the 24 hour rates a new thing? Don't recall them being an option last December

Have you ever messed with your HDF file and set the car to charge during the EV rate times?

My rule of thumb for D/N was always 2:1 (Day:Night) when my family asked me if they should switch to a D/N tariff. If a family member said they used around this amount of electricity at night, it was worth investigating. You're not a million miles off that and I suspect, moving the EV to the special rate may yield savings. Naturally on a ToU plan, you may also adjust other usage to save money.

Obviously might not make sense for you etc. Just a query.

Battery storage would be another factor (and in turn solar).

Thanks for the tip. I renewed with them at this price.

Really? Really? Have you ever heard of storage heating?

no in fact… interesting 😁

as a matter of interest, how was energypal wrong?

I'm assuming you uploaded your HDF file to bonkers etc? With a smart meter, i don't see the point in manually typing stuff in.

So I made the switch to Flogas this week and low and behold I received the now expected call from Energia this morning with a counter offer.

The best they could give me when I called up to renew was a 32% discount off their smart data day, night, peak tariff but amazingly today they were able to offer me a whopping 38% discount bringing the rates incl. vat to:

Day: 0.2612

Night: 0.1436

Peak: 0.2933

However, based on my own research and Energy Pal and Kilowatt.ie recommendations I am moving back to the single 24hr tariff and Energia were not able to match the Flogas rate of 0.2256 incl. vat so they wished me the best of luck and we parted ways for 12 months at least.

Hope this information might help others out there in the process of switching.

I uploaded the HDF both this year and last years and both ended up giving the same result. (Im with Flogas now for context)

Yuno energy always listed first.

Then Electric Ireland was next.

Then Airtricity.

Didnt see the Energia plan listed until well down.

This ended up being the cheapest when I did my calcs, and was also the one recommended by the comparison sites.

Electric Ireland and Airtricity were both around €200 more

A bit like Escapees, I don't think I 100% follow but I do get the gist of what you're saying. You believe they miscalculate the Energia total bill for the year? Both the comparison sites and your own calculations back that up?

If that's the case, that's very interesting. I've only had a smart meter installed recently and literally only switched 2 weeks ago but it's something I'll keep in mind for 12 months time.

I think this is very much one of those you need to see for yourself, its hard to explain!

What Flogas rate is that @ 22.56c?

I recently moved to Flogas on their Single Electricity 30% Discount @ 27.75, because the €150 Welcome Credit made it cheaper for me than the Fixed rate @ 24.09, but I didn't see the 22.56c one anywhere.

On the comparasion sites, are you selecting the option to see all plans including those that are not available through the site?