Mass shooting on Bondi Beach

It's crazy that you don't respond to posts. Your MO seems to be trotting out stuff that nobody said and then running away. You owe me a response on the 5 Whys. You are not interested in understanding/learning anything beyond the Black&White viewpoint you have already decided to adopt no matter what. Quite shallow.

One of my few encounters with an Israeli was decades ago while on holiday and her attitude to Ireland and me as Irish was similar to attitudes from Arabs, Ireland had and was fighting the British (1970s) so we were the 'good guys'.

People make up their own minds often based on erroneous ideas.

I didn't discredit anything, I asked a question. But genuinely, why would I focus on an image when I have a video by which to form my opinion? It shows more, it adds context, it includes the words of the subject.

Why you would choose to ignore that, is your prerogative.

The thread is about Bondi, but there are several angles from which it is natural that Gaza is forming a significant part of the discussions around this. Even people who were on Bondi on Sunday have brought Gaza (and Palestine) in to the discussion, and that aside, this particular individual who was in the media we are discussing here was immersed in what is happening in Gaza and that alone would justify it being discussed.

"The whys don’t really matter if the problem persists."

That is probably the shallowest statement I have ever read on Boards. It's like you are choosing to be deliberately ignorant of the root causes. Are you afraid to try the 5 Whys?

Why is it only Islamic migrants launching terror attacks in countries they migrated to? 

At least some portion of the reason for this must be the level to which they have experienced violence in their community/home country. I mean for 30 years now since I started paying attention to current affairs, there has always been serious conflict happening in a lot of the countries from which a lot of migrants originated.

Is it unreasonable to suggest that violence begets violence?

And once you start excluding some people because of the actions of a few, then where do you stop? The vast majority of Islamic migrants bring nothing but good things to the countries they move to, should they be excluded? Should all Irish people be banned from Australia because X amount get drunk and start fights or whatever?

To stop it you must understand it.

 think this would constitute a deeper level of immersion than what most of us have experienced.

Right so you're talking about one particular individual who was one of those killed.

But likewise, this attack was on a group of Jews celebrating an annual Jewish festival in Australia not an individual{s} who were involved in the Israel/Palestine conflict. Picking one victim to focus on is ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? I haven't said that it justifies the attack, but I have made the point that some argue that it is pointless attacking Jews thousands of miles away from Gaza with the implication being that they couldn't have anything to do with the actions there. This individual (and at least one more who was injured) shows that that is a false premise.

This attack offers evidence that Israel's actions in Gaza are supported by a wide number of Jews worldwide and I am not saying that that justifies the attack, it absolutely does not, but it does weaken the argument that there is not widespread support for Israel's actions within the Jewish community.

(And for the record, I absolutely am not saying that all Jewish people support Israel's actions, I know they do not, in the same way I know that not all Israeli's support the actions of their government/armed forces) But a significant portion of both communities do, significantly so within Israel, obviously.

Say it was possible to prove that this attack was solely motivated by anger at what Israel is doing in Gaza (again, I'm not even suggesting it was) is that not something that should be discussed?

In the last few days, worldwide and even on this thread, we've seen people advocating for the harsh judgement and treatment of all Muslims because of the action of a few within their community. If this is a reasonable and rational approach, why should Jewish people not be judged in the same way with respect to Israel's actions given how much Israel ties its existence to the religion.

Some of that is just daft. Potatoman could defend his willful ignorance himself you know.

"Having a full understanding of reasons wouldn't have stopped this attack".

I never said that. We need to understand the hatred to reduce or eliminate the radicalised hatred. Hatred breeds violence and violence breeds hatred. I am talking about the future.