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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Repo101


    This is naïve because it assumes Trump is playing a persuasion game with the political “middle” at all. He isn’t, he’s governing through polarisation, grievance, and institutional capture, not broad approval, so “gravity” in the Johnson sense doesn’t really apply.

    It also overstates elections and fatigue as constraints when Trump has repeatedly shown he can survive poor economic sentiment by redirecting blame, dominating attention, and mobilising a loyal minority that’s large enough to matter, exhaustion doesn’t automatically translate into political consequences in a system this polarised.

    The reality is that this is the new America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,972 ✭✭✭Patser


    Maybe. He certainly has been playing by his own set of rules for a while, but there are other things to consider. Legally he is still a 2nd term President and soon will be oldest ever President - he has no future beyond this term.

    That might give him freedom not to care about polls, results etc as long as he can mobilise his base.

    But polls and recent results are showing a string turn against his policies, and its the Republicans who are feeling it. At some point I feel, they'll have to turn on Trump, or try reign him in before he drags them down. He's already not their future leader, he's shown no inclination to listen to them, he's causing outrage and threatening wars, and while that polarisation has fed his base, it looks like the middle ground in moving the opposite direction.

    A really bad midterm, and then the next big election being the Presidential one will I feel galvanise Republicans to react and try jettison/sideline Trump before they go the way of the Conservatives in the UK.

    But since they are currently spineless, and afraid of Trump, you've another year of him at the helm alienating the middle ground of America, and previous global allies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Flooding the zone is about exhausting the opposition until the extreme rhetoric is normalised. Its starting to wear thin but we've seen his comebacks from incendiary language before. It also helps distract from economic data.

    Controversy over WH Chief of Staff Suzy Wiles criticisms of WH staff in Vanity Fair magazine interview. She called JD Vance "a conspiracy theorist for a decade", OMB director Russell Vought "a rightwing absolute zealot", Elon Musk "an avowed ketamine (user)…he's an odd, odd duck". She was also asked about the James and Comey indictments (which so far have fallen apart but the WH is trying to revive them - the Leticia James indictment has now been rejected by 3 Grand Juries). Wiles says she doesnt blame Trump if he wanted to seek retribution. The interviewer asked if the James indictment is an example and she said it could be.

    Gold for James and Comey's lawyers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭threeball


    That suit is going nowhere. He said the two phrases used. He suffered no loss or damage and it wasn't even shown in the States, so how can he claim it was done to influence the election. It won't even get to court.

    If that proves to be the level of malice required to sue someone then Trump could be sued into oblivion for his constant false statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭doyle55




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    At this stage, what reputation does he have left to lose?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,578 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, has withdrawn his private equity firm from a $500 million luxury hotel project in Serbia hours after four senior government officials were charged with bribery by prosecutors.

    But, on Monday, Serbia’s Public Prosecutor’s Office for Organized Crime charged Culture Minister Nikola Selakovic and three others with abuse of office and falsifying documents relating to the undertaking. Selakovic denies any wrongdoing.

    A spokesperson for Affinity Partners, Kushner’s Miami-based firm, responded by announcing the business’s withdrawal because “meaningful projects should unite rather than divide and out of respect for the people of Serbia and the city of Belgrade.”

    The spokesperson told the Wall Street Journal that Affinity had no connection to the alleged offences.

    If the US is tied down in Venezuela it probably won't be much help if Russia attacks NATO.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    From the Comments section of the above article, the scamming and grifting continues also from the fraud case against Trump Inc., it is totally borrowed up against its assets and re-financed atevery opportunity if equity appears.

    10 days ago

    Businesses of the 79-year-old 🍊 🤡 that failed:

    Donald J. Trump Foundation

    Golden Nugget Atlantic City

    GoTrump.com

    Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City

    New Jersey Generals

    Plaza Hotel

    Paradox Hotel Vancouver

    Plaza Hotel

    Trump Air

    Trump Deutschland

    The Trump Network

    Trump Entertainment Resorts

    Trump Ice

    Trump Institute

    Trump Magazines

    Trump Mortgage

    Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico

    Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino

    Trump Productions

    Trump Shuttle

    Trump Steaks

    Trump Tampa

    Trump University

    Trump Vodka

    Trump Water

    Trump World's Fair

    Trump: The Game

    Trumped!

    Also smaller ventures where investors lost all their money.

    Due to unforseen circomstancies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Let's hope the BBC get their retaliation in first………



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I assume Graham is going for re election in the senate in 2026 so getting on the wrong side of Trump would be the end of him in a primary.

    Also Graham main policy concern is Israel and neocon stuff and Trump is delivering on both those fronts.

    He won't be breaking with Trump anytime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Trump signed a landmark Technology Partnership Deal with Starmer when in the UK on 18 Sept last and suspended the deal a few days back as he is not too happy at the implementation of the deal. 3 Months is a long time in inter-gvt business deals… Allegedly Trump is looking for trade concessions now.

    News report from the BBC on the 17 Sept… The UK government says it has secured £150bn worth of US investment which it hopes will create 7,600 jobs. The announcement came on the day that US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer signed an agreement dubbed the "Tech Prosperity Deal" which sees firms such as Microsoft and Google pledging to spend billions in the UK. It is part of a wider plan by the UK to deepen economic ties with the US. However, some industries, such as steel, have been dealt a blow with a proposed deal to cut tariffs shelved. Several big drugs companies, such as AstraZeneca, have also halted investment plans, claiming the UK is an "increasingly challenging" country to do business in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I was wondering about the US Defence Pers standing with Trump in the Oval Office the other days when he was talking to the media. It seems they were there to receive their Southern Border Campaign medals for duty supporting the Border agents on the Mexican border. The service medal was established by Sec War Hegseth last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    "secured £150bn worth of US investment which it hopes will create 7,600 jobs"

    7600 jobs for 150 Billion? Instead of creating jobs they could just give the money away and make 10,000 people multi-millionaires.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think Brexit is a major factor. The form of Brexit adopted by Johnson was protectionist. The UK erected barriers to trade with its largest market and largest source of imported food. The financial services sector is doing better than the economy overall. but only because it has a carve-out in the Brexit deal. The next stage in the 7 stages of Brexit denial/grief will be the likely election of a Reform UK government in 2029.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    A puppet-government for Trump et al? Hopefully it'll last as just as long as the shortest Conservative Govts terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Steve Bannon says "we have to seize the institutions. Seize them and then purge them".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Hopefully it lasts as long as the term of the shortest Prime Ministers term. As in 41 days for Ms Truss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Hopefully that message will hit home to him if Trump's style of Govt is given the boot in the U.S. There will be enough of the official U.S purging residencies to keep him in at the taxpayers expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Field east


    I would like to know how all the Trump comments, opinions, ‘facts’ ,etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, that he SPLURTS out on a frequent basis on individuals known to be Democratic supporters, democratic policies and on anything else that is Democratic Party related , eg names of buildings, celebration days ARE PLAYING on ROUGHLY HALF OF THOSE WHO VOTED IN THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

    Another cohort would be those that did not vote. Will they be energised enough to vote next time around and if they do then what way will they vote

    And of course those who voted in Trump last time. How will they vote next time around? Surely some of these were undecided up to the last minute / some maybe lukewarm ‘ supporters, etc.

    IF I was Trump I would be very worried about support from ALL THREE categories

    ‘ l



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Field east


    what happens if the files are not released by the set deadline. Does the ‘SHERRIF’ turn up to the store where they are , with ‘his truck’ and with DEI or the army and seize them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Trump doesn't care.

    He has no interest in how the Republican party fares at the next election because he is not going forward himself. He doesn't give a toss about the rest of them.

    All he craves is for some people to tell him he's the greatest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,322 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Of course they are not going to be released. Trumps main strategy over anything that he does not want to do is delay, delay, delay. If he does not release them he gains a few days, puts off into the future something that time may change.

    Meanwhile there are the supposed investigations into Clinton and Summers which can be used as delay tactics, and even if they are released there will be so many redactions they will be unusable.

    Though at this stage there must be quite a lot of people good at Redactle who could translate them for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,220 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    It works for him either way.

    If Vance wins in 2028 then Trump will have been so great that the people wanted his legacy to continue. One of very few presidents to achieve this and the first since Reagan (and notably something that Clinton, Bush II and Obama failed to achieve).

    If Vance loses in 2028 then Trump will spiel about how poor a campaign Vance ran, how they should have let him run a 3rd time as the people demanded, how he is the only one beloved enough by the public to defeat the Dems, that it was always Trump and the people around him were effectively nobodies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,354 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,207 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Disturbing to see the sick actions of the US in their colonial enterprise in South America... Trying to dominate and exploit the region.

    Trump talking about 'land' that Venezuela have taken from the US? What **** land?

    Brazil must be feeling a bit angsty at the moment with the 'US Armada' floating about and around the continent that they in fact are the major power in.

    I did notice that the US dropped sanctions on the Brazilian Supreme court justice however, was that some sort of small nod to them to be good and here's a biscuit?

    Nothing like a war for Christmas. What a sick piece of sh1t.

    Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America. It will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before — Until such time as they return to the United States of America all of the Oil, Land, and other Assets that they previously stole from us. The illegitimate Maduro Regime is using Oil from these stolen Oil Fields to finance themselves, Drug Terrorism, Human Trafficking, Murder, and Kidnapping. For the theft of our Assets, and many other reasons, including Terrorism, Drug Smuggling, and Human Trafficking, the Venezuelan Regime has been designated a FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Therefore, today, I am ordering A TOTAL AND COMPLETE BLOCKADE OF ALL SANCTIONED OIL TANKERS going into, and out of, Venezuela. The Illegal Aliens and Criminals that the Maduro Regime has sent into the United States during the weak and inept Biden Administration, are being returned to Venezuela at a rapid pace. America will not allow Criminals, Terrorists, or other Countries, to rob, threaten, or harm our Nation and, likewise, will not allow a Hostile Regime to take our Oil, Land, or any other Assets, all of which must be returned to the United States, IMMEDIATELY. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

    DONALD J. Drumpf
    PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    Texas congressman Joaquin Castro, a Democrat, called the blockade “unquestionably an act of war”.

    “A war that the Congress never authorized and the American people do not want”.

    The president of peace, ladies and gentlemen. Failed Nobel Prize contestant, and FIFA Peace Prize winner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    i doubt Brexit has anything to do with it, apart from making the UK and the EU weaker by splitting them.

    Trump got what he wanted at the time, with the promise of something in the future for the UK. Trump knows that the UK is far too weak to be able to do anything about this now, he will simply threaten to raise the tariffs if the UK complain.

    Starmer has played a poor hand incredibly badly. He has humiliated himself in front of Trump and got almost nothing in return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭randd1


    At least he's honest about it, in his own scumbag mental degenerate way. He mentions oil quite a lot, so we know what his war-mongering is all about.

    Not sure how launching a massive war helps oil prices in the US, but maybe the state of the country under Trump, they need a boost in patriotism to distract them, and this might do it for them.

    Bombs away. Tens of thousands dead, America occupying another country to rape it of it's oil.

    America, fcuk yeah!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,386 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I disagree. Brexit was sorted over half a decade ago. I wouldn't say Johnson's deal was protectionist at all. It was basically as much of a continuation of the pre-existing trade arrangements as the EU would allow. It severely curtailed room to deviate from the EU's regulations. The financial sector wasn't included but that doesn't seem to have harmed it that much.

    The UK isn't that weak. If it was, Starmer would have had the BBC cave. Instead, he's backing it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,215 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Basically the yanks want to sell the poison they call food in the UK and the Brits said no, Trump's had a sissy fit and "paused" the deal.

    He should continually be told to fùck off.



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