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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Yeah that's still nonsense as far as i'm concerned though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,683 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Im not overly concerned with Lammens currently, he is doing the basics right, has not had any clangers and is young. DDG looked a bit ropey early doors so for a young keeper in a new league i think its natural. He has good command of the box, isnt afraid to commit and has decent reflexes, lots to build on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Think every player should have competition for places, Lammens hasn't got it because of the other 2 lemons (sry) on the books.

    Vitek is doing well which is obviously good to see. GK position is a hard one to get right so maybe a but of competition next season will be good. With European football next season (hopefully) there should be enough games with competition and game time to give.

    How long is left on Onanas and Byandir contracts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Think the right midfield signings in the summer will help a lot of defensively. Wharton and/or Anderson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I actually don't think Bruno's interview is that bad.

    Of course it's logical that if you get an offer of £100m for a player in his 30s, any club has a duty to seriously consider it.

    But these players all have huge egos, so I'd imagine it hurt Bruno to even imagine that the club would sell him.

    It's good that he prefers to stay at United and fight than to take the big bucks and semi-retire in Saudi.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Just listening to the good, the bad and football podcast and Andy Cole is guest.

    He would of been number 2 all time top scorer without penalties from the others. Hes 5th right now.

    Think hes definitely a player in the Premier League thats under appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Fuller piece in Guardian on bruno comments

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/dec/16/bruno-fernandes-hits-out-at-manchester-united-directors



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,777 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    One of the most complete players we ever had. Could score, hold up play, play out wide, excellent passer and a super crosser of a ball (goal for Yorke in cl semi comes to mind)

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Andy would have been written off by half the posters on here as a busted flush in his first year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭keeponhurling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    He was signed by Newcastle from league 2 Bristol City in 91/92 at the time.

    2 years at Newcastle and came to Utd, absolutely smashed the Premier League at both clubs.

    The story of himself and Keegan is brilliant.

    Cole should of been picked way more for the his national squad.

    So underrated by their own imo.

    The good, The bad, The football isn't bad. Love Butt in it, hes very good and far and away from other utd players in the scene now that used to play in that era.

    Has hadsome good players come in for a chat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,409 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    He scored 12 goals in the 18 PL games after joining in January. I don't think we would have called him a busted flush.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    Yet he got the majority of the blame for us not winning the league!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,146 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I just read it as the club being consistent with every player in the team, I.e. we aren't going to stand in your way if you want to move. For me that's 100% the right approach and seems to have caught some players off guard. The manager (also part of the club by the way) then spoke to him and told him he would like him to stay. There's nothing wrong with how the club behaved here. In fact, we need more of this.

    If Bruno is upset that he wasn't begged by the board to stay then he needs a reality check and understand there's a new way the club have decided to operate and I'd like to think most fans are behind it.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,777 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    His failure at the time was based on the West Ham game on last day.

    He really excelled from 97/98 season.

    Don't forget he had his two legs broken from that footballer who ended up making tit of himself on that debt program.

    Andy had last laugh on both fronts anyway.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    He did but five of those goals were scored in one game versus Ipswich Town ( still a very good return) He got lots of stick at the time. Totally undeserved and as someone said already, a great player for us that was definitely underrated by various England managers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭jayo44


    Yeah also remmeber the stick Cole got. He got bettered said he needed ten chances to score and all sorts of crap.

    I always felt Cole played better without cantona in the team at the time. When he came into the team, first he played beside Hughes and then when cantona retired



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Strong wiff of Woodward off Yoros signing. Barrada making it his personal project to get Yoro signed when the team had no LB to start the season because the two senior LBs were constantly injured. On top of other issues.

    Hope they don't make the same mistake in the coming transfer windows. This midfield would make you fortune in Amsterdam because of how often it gets ran through. Defence is leaking goals big time. But the only noise around singings is £65M on another winger.

    If you're going to be splashing £65M on a player for LWB do it to try and sign a quality LB. You can see the team this season are much better going forward. Creating more chances, joint 2nd for goals scored (30) but we've also conceded 26 goals. The opposite of last season when we couldn't score to save our lives but defensively we were alright for goals conceded until the team gave up focus for the EL.

    INOES should be looking at strengthening the spine of that team this year. Midfield an absolute priority but so too is CB. Even more so if Bruno doesn't leave and for me a LB to play LWB. To offer defensive stability to make up for the RHS being so attacking and if Bruno remains a LB will also help with defensive stability for his side of pitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭cosatron


    He missed 2 sitters against West ham on the final day that cost us the league.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭DataDude


    Yeah although I will admit at the time I thought Yoro was a slam dunk. Just based on the hype/scouting reports/fact Madrid wanted him. One of the few signings in last decade I was fully in on. His development has been really disappointing though.

    100% agree on the rest. The team needs massive investment in the spine. It needs Wharton AND Anderson + one more role player (assuming case & Bruno go). Then it needs 2 CBs minimum. After that it definitely needs an LWB and realistically either a starting or at worst experienced back up 9.

    The level of spend needed remains astronomical and will take multiple more years. We remain miles off the top personnel wise. Thankfully think the financial firepower will improve a lot over next few years as all our expensive mistakes roll off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Seattle


    Yoro has only just turned 20. His development curve is fine for a CB.

    Ruben Dias was 23 when he signed for City.

    Van Dijk was 26 when he signed for Liverpool.

    Varane only became a regular at Real Madrid at 22 (they signed him when he was 18).

    Ferdinand was 23 when Utd signed him.

    The list goes on really. Very few CBs perform consistently at the highest level at age 20! I honestly don't know where the expectations of Yoro are coming from tbh.

    Post edited by Seattle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    You're absolutely spot-on about the spine of our team. It's way too soft, no stability and lacks leaders. The ease with which we surrender goals is a big concern.

    We'll go easy on Martinez last night and put it down to rustiness……but realistically he's entering the final year of his contract in the Summer. Is it really worth keeping him at this rate, with all his injury issues?

    Yoro has not progressed as we would have hoped. There's still time for him, but not a guy you would build the defence around at this point.

    CM has been badly neglected for far too long. Let's hope it is addressed properly next summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭DataDude


    There’s no suggestion he won’t someday be good enough, and as you point out, it could be several years away. It doesn’t help us compete right now that he might be good enough in 3-6 years. I said earlier I think he could probably do with a loan. CB at United is a tough place for a 20 year old to learn the ropes under such pressure.

    I disagree that his development has been fine though. Still loads and loads of time for him but he has arguably regressed since he joined, not improved.

    Think Amorim has said himself. He’s too in his own head. When (if??) all our CBs are ever fully fit I expect he will be 5th choice after De Ligt, Maguire, Shaw and Martinez. Maybe Maz too.


    Perhaps that’s not a bad thing to manage his exposure but I’d have thought a regular start at a smaller club would be better for his development.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,777 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Just one last thing on Cole. From open play he had a better goal ratio than Shearer.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭kyleman


    It is extremely rare for any 20 year old at CB to be the finished article and I’m sure he wasn’t bought to play every game.

    We are not always going to buy 25/26 year old premiership proven players so any new players especially very young ones from other leagues have to be allowed scope to gain confidence and experience to express themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    That's all fine, but the expectations come from starting for United!

    Our recruitment has been crazy bad for such a long time. We've lurched from past it superstars to overpriced project players.

    The likes of Mount, Cunha, Mbuemo, De Ligt, are the right kind of signings, proven (PL proven even better) players in their prime years for not totally mad money.

    A club like United can't sign players like Hojlund and Yoro and dump them in the first team while expecting them to learn and develop into top class players. It's just yet another lesson in how not to do recruitment and development.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    My only issue with Yoro is the fact that £52M was splashed out on him to be a long term project when other signings were needed more. Berrada's pursuit of Yoro stank of Woodward vibes.

    He's young he'll come good but Mazraoui is keeping him out of the team who was signed as a £15M squad player to cover Dalot. So unfortunately he's going to cop a lot of flak when a ton of money was spent on him and bigged up as a generational talent while the defence is leaking goals and could do with two first choice CBs being signed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,001 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    need to sort this out. last season we conceded 54. currently tracking for 62.

    we needed to be 10 goals conceded better off than last season (~45 conceded), and +25 goals scored (currently tracking for +27) to challenge 2-5th place.

    tis a terrible record.

    Screenshot 2025-12-16 203836.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭SteM


    Nah, the Woodward style signings were the likes of Sánchez, Di Maria, Falcao etc. Would never have classed Yoro as a Woodward type of signing tbh. Yoro cost a chunk but he has plenty of time on his side to come good.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    He did miss chances but from what I remember it more a case of Ludek Miklosko having the game of his life…. he was incredible on the day.

    edit…. this in response to the poster who said Andy Cole missed two sitters against West Ham that cost us the league in 95 , ( quote function not working for some reason)

    Post edited by Charlie69 on


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