Tesla Talk 2

It's all very well and good having the hardware, that's not the hard part.

I think what he meant was that Tesla already have tens of thousands of cars on the roads in Europe feeding back data to the mothership.

I'm equally excited and fearful. I love driving but also would love the convenience of essentially my own car being my 24hr taxi on demand

I mean you can have all the data you want, terabytes of the stuff but unless you use it it doesn't serve any purpose.

Your response seemed like you missed his point.

Also the data gathering is what gives Tesla the advantage. Sure, they have to utilise it, but that's why they gather it first. Every journey in Tesla gives them more data to refine the HW and SW.

I'm conflicted on this. I also love to drive, but it would be great to be able to drive, or let the car take over. Where I lean toward autonomous driving is my experience of extremely poor and dangerous driving I see every day on the road. I can't even drive to the supermarket around the corner anymore without seeing poor driving and bad/illegal parking.

In my 4 decades in this country, I've been involved in a few incidents.

1. Run over by a driver escaping another driver she backed into. I was almost killed crossing the road. Suffered head injury.
2. Rear ended at traffic lights by a driver checking his pizza order. Whiplash.
3. Side of my car backed into by careless neighbour while I sat in it. She went to drive off before I got out! No injury.
4. Same neighbours daughter backed into a car I had sold and was due for collection that day. Driver door wrecked. No proof.
5. Rear ended at speed as I pulled over on back road to let another car pass. Other driver speeding and tyres were bald. Car written off. I needed spinal surgery.
6. Rear ended at lights near a roundabout. Other driver was high. No damage to my car. No injuries.
7. Backed into by taxi driver after I parked in disabled spot (legally). He denied it until I pointed out that his van was still touching my bumper. Minor damage to license plate. No injury.
8. Rear ended on motorway while stationary in gridlock traffic. Other driver was on phone. Whiplash and back injury.
9. Rear ended while stopped at lights. Other driver side swiped car behind me and then crashed into me. Suspect other driver was DUI. Injured again.

There are more instances, but what I have learned is that you absolutely cannot trust for a moment the abilities, or willingness of other road users to be safe on our roads. As much as I love driving, I would give it up for autonomous vehicles if it meant the above was prevented.

That's a long list of accidents. I do 40-50k km a year (60k+annually at one point) in the GDA predominantly. I've been in 3 accidents in my ~16 years driving, two serious ones not my fault (rear ended on M50, bus turned in on me on M7) and one minor that was very much my fault (reversed into a taxi in blanch because it was christmas and I was distracted).

A proper FSD setup would have avoided the taxi one but (IMO) neither of the serious ones. But… how many others would it have had.

I am an avid viewer periodically (if that makes sense!) of US based tesla FSD videos on the yootuuubs. I do want it to work but I want it to work right. I've had enough of tesla crappy driver aids marketed as "AP" "EAP" "FSD" etc just make the thing work. PS: nothing has been as good at autopiloting the car as AP2.5 navigate on autopilot before they nerfed it with the regulations governing sharpness of turning.

Most, if not all those accidents would have been prevented if the "other vehicles" were autonomous. Autonomy doesn't do jacksh!t if the car is stationary. But, yeah, it's many years away before autonomous vehicles are in the majority and we will still have plenty of idiots driving around crashing into the autonomous cars.

Oh, that's what it was? I thought it was something to do with him not getting a roadster from referrals he earned and then having a bit of a falling out with Musk. I can't listen to, or read his stuff anymore, as he has lost all credibility in my eyes.