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Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    That's the thing and if the machine could be set to retain the can it rejects first time you are snookered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The entities I mentioned are usually already collecting them, and returning them

    You are entitled to change the voucher for cash - a retailer cannot refuse to do this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,012 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Seen one of these set ups in Dunnes in Donaghmede - inside the store at the fresh food area - bizarre - smell rotten , do people then go around doing their shopping with their dirty hands. Mad set up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭bmc58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭bmc58


    That's fine if it suits you.But I prefer €20 in my pocket than some fat cat director.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If the can's aren't crushed / PET bottles are in nearly any condition at all; either someone working along the line in the bin company, or the bin company themselves is almost definitely going to get the refund.

    The people who crush cans before binning them to ensure the deposit cannot be returned - I've seen comments like that on Reddit and possibly here - are just adding to Return's surplus as it stands. The exact opposite of what they likely want to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Yes some of the machines are frustrating but it's no reason to give the money to the executives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,408 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Think of how much more you could make by not spending your time feeding a stupid machine can by can

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You pay the 15 cent deposit at the time of purchase.

    There is no possibility of getting the 15 cent back without feeding the can into the machine.

    There is no way to make more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Well I want my money back and am not letting it go to someones yearly bonus.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    So frustrating having to put a can or bottle in the machine 2 or 3 times because it keeps getting rejected for no reason. Not sure if it is the reading of the barcode, I usually find that giving the barcode a quick wipe usually does the trick, also found that something you have to place the bottle or can a certain way for the machine to read the barcode. I was at a machine recently where you either had to do all bottles or all cans, for some reason if you did a bottle and then a can it would reject the can.

    As of the return machines in Donaghmede, they are down the back of the store and have a wall of packs of cans in front of them. It is nice not being out in the cold in the car park to do them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I have found Dunnes machines work well.

    I put containers in bottom first and it seems to make no difference if I mix bottles and cans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I have only encountered the machine that wouldn't take a mix of cans once and that was at a supervalu. Once I had all the bottles in and then got a receipt, I could then put in all the cans.

    What is annoying is that donate to charity button beside the print receipt button, I wonder how many have pressed the donate button by accident?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I have figured out a way of using less plastic bottles and thereby paying less in deposits.

    I really like Dr Pepper, and drink about 4 500ml bottles per week. However inflation is starting to bite, and so 2.65 per bottle plus 15 cent for the deposit is 2.80 which is more than a bottle of beer! However, a 2 litre bottle of Dr Pepper, is only 3.15 plus 25 cent for deposit. So instead of putting my empties in the green bin, I kept them, then got a 2 litre bottle and divided them into the 4 500ml bottles. Now my 2 litres costs me 3.40, not 11.20. And, I only have 1 2litre bottle to throw in the green bin. Pity they don't do that with beer(in this country).

    Speaking of the green bin, I heard a promo on the radio last week from ReScam saying that if you put your empties into your green bin not using the DRS, that "It doesnt get recycled as efficiently".

    Has anyone heard it? Like most of ReScam, facts and clarity were thin on the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    In the back of bin lorry i bet it will get squashed and unreadable, hence why returning it to machines or donate to others that can claim your deposit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    If they don't go through an RVM there is no pay back of the deposit.

    If you put them in the recycling bin and forgo the deposit they can be recycled but the chance of contamination is higher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,344 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Before I post this, I want to say I hold no ill will towards them but I live in a small place where a hotel started housing asylum seekers. Some of the guys from there swing over every couple of days with bags full of bottles and cans and fill up the one machine in the village. The shop isn't staffed well enough to quickly empty it. They should scale the number of machines appropriately per population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,914 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    You lose a bit of the fizz though. Buy a reusable 500ml bottle in the Pound Shop and then you can get a Euro back on the four other bottles you have now and 25c every time you buy a new 2l.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Icsics


    How does putting the money on gift cards work? Is it keep the same gift card (dunnes) & bring it to customer service every time? I’ve seen these ones on instagram doing their Xmas shop with €300 cards collected this way, gonna try it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's a bit like a Christmas Club.

    Details and discussion here -

    Dunnes Gift Card - Bottle Return Scheme FYI - Irish Mammies & Mammies to be | Forums | What to Expect https://share.google/gUhnIhpomIukOQwB2



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Icsics


    thanks elpereloo…a gift card app is a great idea!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,548 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    The Irish Deposit Return Scheme is set to introduce an account system allowing customers to transfer bottle and can refunds to bank accounts.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Lidl have something similar where the credit goes straight to your app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    I think that the drinks industry paid for an online campaign against the deposit return scheme. Then the person who set it up, the campaign, left for another job. The credit card is still being used to pay the troll farm operator abroad who keeps threads like this going and comments on Journal articles (they light up anytime someone even stutters ‘deposit return’).

    Since that person has left, no one has noticed yet that the fee keeps being paid. It’s the only explanation to me for why people, online people anyway, are still so bent out of shape by this scheme nearly 2 years on.

    ‘Empty can goes in bag. Bring bag to shop when full. Machine out of order? Oh well, if that’s the biggest inconvenience I suffer today, I’ll be doing well.’

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    And I think ReScam are actively paying a few shills to post rubbish like the above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭hoodie6029




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭Field east


    it’s great to see individuals, be they refugees , locals or whatever arriving at a machine with their black plastic full of bottles/ cans. They are at least doing something about making a few bob, reducing litter, etc. and they have the time to do it.

    So if those who ‘resent ‘the scheme / have not time to recycle then please:-

    (1) do not squash the bottles/cans

    (2) leave them some place - especially in a town/village- where someone can see them with a view to it being picked up by someone ‘interested ‘ in it

    (3) enquire around About how might be interested in the containers. Lots of sports and other clubs groups now collect to make some funds , keep their surrounds tidy, etc. I know at least two ‘young fellows’ who use the scheme for a bit of pocket money.

    Irish roads, parks , public areas - BUT ESPECIALLY RURAL ROADS- are ‘paved ‘ with litter of all types inclubding al cans and pet bottles so if we can ‘crack’ this DRS idea maybe it might be the beginning of a cleaner Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭Field east


    What’s your definition of crushed re the DRS. Some machines take badly mangled -even totally flattened cans if they can be restored to a fairly rough shape of the original. If one can 100% retrieve the code/logo from a flattened can and sellotape onto a similar can with no logo some machines will accept same

    . I saw earlier on where someone said that the system does not take damaged cans. So I decided to ‘challenge the system and found out that that is NOT the case . Most of my ‘damaged cans , for example. have no bottom I snip it off so as to help shape can

    The above is not for the ‘faint hearted and only for those that have the time and inclination.

    As one might say “ we all have out idiosyncrasities!!!!!! Spelling?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Idiosyncrasies 👍

    And I too have tried out my amatuer panel beating skills on a few cans.

    Strictly in the interest of research of course !

    And I can confirm that with a bit of fettling damaged cans will pay out.

    Not all mind you and it's not really a money making enterprise.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Thanks for the info.

    I found this online but not much detail.

    Deposit Return Scheme to introduce new account transfer option for bottle refunds - Dublin Live https://share.google/EhhdFO8XIXaex8zBN

    I know a good few posters here have been wanting this for a long time.



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