Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

That list is crazy, especially the family members stuff. I know that my siblings would not consent to me sharing their phone numbers, addresses etc.

It's like Homer on the lie detector machine. Do you understand? Yes. Machine explodes.

The problem with that in the US is when the easily led element of population eventually decides it's been duped, things could turn VERY nasty. It will be driven by finances and cost of living issues eventually.

There is no indication that the recommendations for vaccines were negatively impacting health. There's every indication that it's drastically improved health across the board. So including it as part of a problem is not representing the reality.

You are very much so pushing a particular line though. When medical experts and medical journals are saying this will have a negative impact on the health of the public. I think it's pretty reasonable to say RFK's personal views are dictating policy and endangering public health.

They're more likely to shoot themselves with than anything else.

The whole "second amendment" thing is nuts. They're not the only country in the world that legalises guns, they're just the only ones who fetishize owning a gun.

And what use is the second amendment anyway? There's no way some fat fcuk playing militia at a shooting range on a Saturday is ever going to take on a trained soldier of any description, never mind a soldier of the most powerful military ever assembled an the arsenal they have behind them.

And the second an autocratic government did raise it's head and try and strip away civil liberties (as the current administration one has done, especially their much loved first amendment), they lay back and took it with accepted ease like crack whore desperate for cash for the next fix.

Their guns, and the reasons for their sheer numbers of guns, have been made utterly pointless by Trump and his goons.

At this stage the only thing their second amendment protects, and their only practical use for guns, is their national sport of mass shooting.

Ohio gubernatorial race is now close. Vivek Ramaswamy is now ahead only ahead 1% over Democrat Amy Acton. He leads 55-35 among men, but Acton leads 54-36 among women in an Emerson poll.

In a previous Emerson poll in August, Acton only led among women 44-42.

Where did they find this root vegetable Glasheen (remembering Trump only appoints "the best people")

Actually Roosevelt stated that he wanted to destroy the British Empire and was against it both in principle and practice. His belief was that Empires were an outdated concept and sought to dismantle them. He agitated for an independent India saying that "India should be made a commonwealth at once. After a certain number of years – five perhaps, or ten – she should be able to choose whether she wants to remain in the Empire or have complete independence."

He also said "As a commonwealth, she would be entitled to a modern form of government, an adequate health and educational standard. But how can she have these things, when Britain is taking all the wealth of her national resources away from her, every year? Every year the Indian people have one thing to look forward to, like death and taxes. Sure as shooting, they have a famine. The season of the famine, they call it."

He specifically said to Churchill, who was very much pro Empire, that he believed that an imperial approach was an 18th Century method that "…recommends a policy which takes wealth in raw materials out of a colonial country, but which returns nothing to the people of that country in consideration. Twentieth-century methods involve bringing industry to these colonies. Twentieth-century methods include increasing the wealth of a people by increasing their standard of living, by educating them, by bringing them sanitation – by making sure that they get a return for the raw wealth of their community.'

Roosevelt made no secret to Winston Churchill or anyone else in political circles that he despised the British Empire and said to the PM that British Imperial trade agreements were responsible for making "…the people of India and Africa, of all the colonial Near East and Far East, still as backward as they are."

Needless to say, Roosevelt and Churchill didn't see eye to eye on such things and, in fact didn't agree on a great many items despite the public perception being one of complete agreement on all matters.

As to the Marshal Plan, be aware that that only became a reality when it was pointed out the US policy makers that the Morganthau Plan would have rendered Europe vulnerable to Soviet expansion. Herbert Hoover's data concluded that it would end up starving millions and probably driving millions more into the hands of Communist influence. There was nothing really altruistic about the Marshal Plan. It was purely a practical arrangement.

There's a very interesting book by FDR's son Elliott that gives great insight into what his father thought of Britain, the British and their empire.

Running away seems to be a popular thing to do with right wingers when they're confronted with mildly difficult questions to answer.

Irelands EU presidency next year will be a complete sh1tshow - not only will we be subject to Russian and Chinese cyber threats, ships of dodgy origins and more rogue drones than a midges gathering on a damp evening in Connemara - we now have to contend with the USA wishing to disrupt the EU.
Will be interesting to see if Italians are treated with suspicion over the coming months too, politically - the only way to deal with this is unite unite unite within EU and UK- it’s the MAGA playbook - play off one country against the others - thankfully we’re not thick - stay strong and stay together is my mantra !

“People protect people from tyranny. Americans instead have decided to adopt one of the worst Presidents of all time as some kind of God figure and have rolled over accordingly.”

It’s not just America though - yes from a western world perspective the rot has started there- but it’s growing - the genie is out of the bottle -money, jobs, economies, national securities are all under risk - EU have rolled over to a degree too. America’s position has given other countries “ideas”- if they can behave like that- then so can we.

It’s a wake up call around just how delicate a balance, democracy really is.
It sounds like the race for world dominance has become overt vs covert - resources of all kinds are becoming either scarce or difficult to obtain or are required now and will be taken by force -the superpowers are no longer pretending - America is showing its teeth - I reckon China and Russia will follow suit - Europe isn’t seen as important except to be dominated and belittled and neutralised

It may be no harm if it brings home to our happy-clappy peacenik types the reality of the world we now live in. But we can probably rely on them to miss the point completely.