General Irish politics discussion thread

Be grand, just put out a video advising 20-/30-somethings on how to move back in with your parents and it'll all be grand. All that needed was tips on how to file a planning objection against a new water treatment plant, schools or primary care centres that your town desperately needs for any new housing to be built.

Apart from quoting Ken O, can you link that what he says is true? Lots of lads stick up claims, obviously if its true it'd be concerning. But I'd like to see something concrete first.

Here is Harris answering (?) questions on the "Yellow Flag" programme teaching about "White privilege".

Where was White privilege when Ukraine was invaded? It didnt do them much good.

The term "White Privilege" is a racist one in my opinion when used in Ireland. Its insulting to call children in school privileged, even if they come from a poor background, just because of their skin colour. We are not responsible for the crimes of slavery and colonialism in America or European colonialism.

Also Ken O'Flynn TD posted about the issue on Facebook.

My point on Ukraine is that it shows that misfortune can happen to anyone regardless of skin colour. We shouldnt present it as linked to skin colour. This is just importing the mistaken policies seen in other western countries, which in my opinion is something that parents do not agree with being thought to their children. We need integration of different ethnic groups here, not grievance politics.

We need to listen to what Martin Luther King said about judging not by the colour of skin, but by the content of character.

Harris admitted supporting the Yellow Flag NGO program in schools. That program does mention "White Privilege".

He didnt say that he didnt support that aspect of it.

Racism for what it's worth can include white victims, many eastern Europeans for instance, our own travellers also

Correct which was in effect one of my points, that it can happen to people regardless of colour, and therefore its wrong to label an entire group as privileged. Anti semitism historically involved portraying the Jews in that way.

I think that if people are invited to our country and are going to stay, government policy should focus on integrating them, not grievance studies like "white privilege".

I meant "invited" figuratively. I mean migrants.

I think the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" is relevant. My criticism is of government policy, not migrants (other the individuals who abuse the system) who simply do what the government allows.

If I were in government I would not be spreading this "Critical Race Theory" ideology we've seen in the US. Its very divisive to tell schoolchildren that some in the class are privileged. Its been an issue in school board elections in the US.

When I was on holiday in England, I stand for their national anthem, not because Im a Unionist (which I am not), but out of respect for the country that I am visiting. I didnt go there to complain or protest. If you have a guest at your house who you feed, cloth and provide with shopping money, and they start calling you "privileged", how would that go down with most people? As ingratitude.

How are the majority of Irish people "privileged"?

Wasn't planning on listening to this, but decided I'd give it a whirl. What an absolute clown he came across as. Every second word for the middle portion was ANTIFA. Buzz word central. Everybody is wrong, except him. He's a big fan of gript by all accounts.

I do not know how people accept this drivel.

I think it cant really be compared with ex colonial powers or segregation in the US. In the case of the US, the vast majority of those affected by Jim Crow system were descendants of slaves. Their ancestors had lived in the US or the colonies in some cases for centuries.

I'm worried that White privilege can be interpreted as implying some kind pf inherited guilt by White Irish people for what the US and colonial powers did to Blacks. Ireland was itself colonised and went through similar horrors. We were not the villains of the piece, and we certainly arent now either.

Echoes of FF in in the Haughey era.

This jesuitical distinction between what is owned by the national party and local party should not be accepted by SIPO.

We need to avoid a US style 'dark money" problem in our politics like we had in the Haughey era. Russia uses dark money to influence Western politics, as shown by the Nathan Gill bribery case in the UK. Israel also uses money to control UK foreign policy, as shown by Peter Osborne's program on the UK Israel lobby, which can be viewed on youtube.